16:00:54 <petn-randall> #startmeeting 16:00:54 <MeetBot> Meeting started Thu Sep 7 16:00:54 2023 UTC. The chair is petn-randall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:54 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:01:05 <petn-randall> #topic roll call 16:01:30 <petn-randall> Say hello if you're attending. 16:01:41 <h01ger> hi hi 16:01:56 <taffit> o/ 16:02:16 <rinni> hi 16:03:02 <werdahias> hi 16:05:49 <petn-randall> Alright, let's move on to the next topic. 16:05:54 <petn-randall> #topic location 16:06:53 <petn-randall> So I've talked to the fine folks at c-base, and pitched the idea of having the mini-debconf on their premises, at their circle meeting. They agreed to have us. \o/ 16:07:40 <h01ger> \o/ 16:09:00 <petn-randall> What we still need until May is a few "Paten" (that is: c-base members willing to be there during the event) to cover the whole time. So if y'all know c-base member who are interested, please call out to them. 16:09:31 <petn-randall> The more people the merrier, so it's not dependent on one person to unlock the premises and be there all day. 16:10:05 * h01ger can ask around in the next half year :) 16:10:45 <petn-randall> One member at the circle meeting already agreed to cover the shift over the weekend, but so we still need to ask people for the other days. 16:11:17 <petn-randall> #action ask c-base members to be "Paten" for the event to open and close the premise for us. 16:12:02 <petn-randall> #action petn-randall: Mail the orga@ and notify them that the circle wants us for the week. 16:12:59 <petn-randall> I've already said we'll be willing to pay for the premise, and hinted that we'll orient it around what we paid for Fux (I don't have the numbers right now). 16:14:06 <petn-randall> In case anyone is wondering, c-base is a hackerspace in Berlin-Mitte: https://c-base.org/ 16:14:26 <petn-randall> They have one large main hall, and hopefully a small seminar room that could act as a quiet hacklab. 16:14:52 <petn-randall> Any questions on this topic? 16:16:05 <h01ger> what happens if we find a better venue? is that realistic? 16:16:24 <h01ger> OTOH its great to be able to plan so early 16:17:00 <petn-randall> I'm open to suggestions, but I'm not actively looking for other venues. 16:17:47 <h01ger> c-base is cool for talks and partying but less so for hacking, IME, for many people. (small amount of proper tables & chairs). sorry for not having brought this up earlier. 16:18:11 <h01ger> but maybe we need more talking between people instead of more hacking? ;) 16:18:20 <petn-randall> I thought about official conference places (ICC, BCC), but they're usually much more expensive and not that cosy. 16:18:27 * h01ger nods 16:18:45 <petn-randall> I think the chair/table situation might be fixable. 16:19:05 <petn-randall> I'll hopefully have a chat with people from orga until next meeting. 16:19:39 * h01ger nods 16:19:46 <h01ger> cool then! 16:19:48 <petn-randall> #help find a solution to accomodate enough people at tables. 16:20:03 <petn-randall> another other questions/comments? 16:20:47 <petn-randall> Alright, moving on. 16:21:00 <petn-randall> #topic finance 16:22:06 <petn-randall> h01ger: I believe you ran the ingress/egress money of the last events over Debian france? Can you share more info on that? 16:23:45 <h01ger> sure 16:25:08 <h01ger> you first need to ask debian.fr if they can handle financial foo for the event. then you need a dpl approved budget. then you create RT tickets telling debian.fr what money to spend/receive. then they do magic. voila. everybody happy. the end. 16:25:45 <h01ger> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/de/2023/DebianReunionHamburg/Budget has more info, start reading the proposed and approved budget on the bottom of that page first 16:25:48 <h01ger> . 16:27:42 <petn-randall> #action petn-randall: ask debian.fr if they can handle financial foo for the event. then you need a dpl approved budget. then you create RT tickets telling debian.fr what money to spend/receive. 16:28:28 <petn-randall> h01ger: Thanks. I'll take it from there. I might ask you a question or two some time down the road. ;) 16:28:45 <h01ger> https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DPL/SponsoringGuidelines is also helpful, as everything below /Teams/DPL 16:28:58 <petn-randall> #info Last year's budget https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/de/2023/DebianReunionHamburg/Budget 16:29:16 <h01ger> also, ask the dpl early & often, the dpl is your friend and wants more debian meetings to happen 16:29:44 <petn-randall> Will do 16:30:31 <petn-randall> #info https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DPL/SponsoringGuidelines is also helpful, as everything below /Teams/DPL 16:31:09 <petn-randall> Any other questions/comments? 16:32:00 <petn-randall> Alright, moving on. 16:32:15 <petn-randall> #topic sponsors 16:32:58 <petn-randall> We need sponsors, and I'm notoriously bad at writing nice letters to ask them. :) 16:33:55 <h01ger> its also good if there are more people working on making it happen :) 16:34:03 * h01ger doesnt volunteer though :-D 16:34:07 <petn-randall> What would be a good deadline for that? Assuming we want to print shirts. 16:35:44 <h01ger> urbec: ^ :) 16:35:56 <petn-randall> h01ger: Did we have a cutoff date for the last events? 16:36:00 <h01ger> shirts need to be ready for printing 3-4 weeks before event 16:36:28 <petn-randall> So something like 2 months before the event? 16:37:41 <h01ger> no, 3-4 weeks 16:38:01 <h01ger> well, 4 weeks. so you have 7 days to include all the sponsor logos in the design 16:38:49 <petn-randall> #help find sponsors before deadline April 14 2024. 16:39:20 <h01ger> :thumbsup: 16:39:24 <petn-randall> Alright. 16:39:29 <petn-randall> Moving on. 16:39:33 <petn-randall> #topic call for papers 16:39:56 <petn-randall> Ideally, I don't want to be involved in this part, but I don't see anyone else active here besides h01ger. 16:40:27 <werdahias> Is this managing/ organizing the talks ? 16:40:39 <petn-randall> #help 3 people who are willing to do a call for papers, curate the list and organize a schedule for Saturday and Sunday. 16:40:43 <petn-randall> werdahias: yes 16:41:44 <werdahias> hm, I could be convinced to help there 16:41:55 <h01ger> petn-randall: its good to send out a call for help after this meeting. :) 16:42:29 <petn-randall> The job would be to ask on mailing lists (like last year), receive responses, sometimes ask for clarification on the topic, then make a schedule. Sometimes people can't make it on that time slot, and you'd have to shuffle around a bit. 16:43:01 <petn-randall> werdahias: I'd write you down as interested, but ideally it should be around 3 people to share the load. 16:43:32 <petn-randall> #info werdahias is interested in working on the content team. 16:43:47 <petn-randall> Moving on. 16:43:52 <petn-randall> #topic video 16:44:12 <werdahias> petn-randall: sure :) I guess I can use the mail from dc-hamburg as template ? 16:44:37 <petn-randall> #topic call for papers 16:44:54 <petn-randall> werdahias: yeah. I'd set up a mail alias once there's enough people on board. 16:45:15 <werdahias> k 16:45:22 <petn-randall> So every reply ends up at all 3 members. 16:45:54 * h01ger thinks cfp can wait until end of december or so 16:46:22 <petn-randall> werdahias: So there won't be much work until next meeting, the most work is usually a few weeks before the deadline, and usually a week after the deadline because half of the respondents reply then. :) 16:46:36 * petn-randall nods at h01ger. 16:46:42 <werdahias> ack :) 16:46:55 <petn-randall> alright 16:47:00 <petn-randall> #topic video 16:47:59 <petn-randall> c-base has a lot of nice video and audio eqipment, which might mean the video team doesn't have to ship all their stuff to the venue. 16:48:36 <petn-randall> #action petn-randall: ask the c-base orga about the existing A/V equipment for streaming. 16:49:20 <petn-randall> olasd: Are you interested in the video orga for this event? If not, could you ask the video team people who'd be interested? ^ 16:49:55 <petn-randall> #help general video team orga needed 16:50:04 <petn-randall> Nothing urgent for now, let's move on. 16:50:34 <petn-randall> #topic any other business 16:51:31 <petn-randall> There's still question about accomodation, because we don't have a nice hostel on-premise like at Fux in Hamburg. 16:52:02 <petn-randall> #help ideas for good accomdation around c-base, maybe even ask for a rebated contingent at a nearby hostel. 16:52:21 <werdahias> fwiw there is a nice, affordable hostel in mitte last time I was there 16:52:40 <petn-randall> Food is also a bit difficult, since the venue has no restaurant/kitchen, and the options nearby aren't really that good. 16:52:45 * h01ger is happy to see this event taking off :) 16:53:10 <werdahias> https://staygenerator.com/hostels/berlin/alexanderplatz ; no idea how far this is from c-base 16:53:30 <petn-randall> #help ideas to keep all attendants happy and fed during the event. 16:54:08 <petn-randall> werdahias: This is the venue, it's a bit off from Alex: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/260050809#map=16/52.5110/13.4196 16:54:25 <petn-randall> But I'm sure we'll find ideas when the date gets closer. 16:54:54 <petn-randall> next up is shirts 16:55:30 <petn-randall> #help people willing to help design, print, and ship the shirts on time needed 16:55:57 <petn-randall> And lastly, daytrip. 16:56:16 <werdahias> that'd be 1.5 km from c-base, just checked 16:56:37 <petn-randall> I'm open to daytrip ideas, I have some on the back of my head. Ideally we'd have ~3 options for people to choose from. 16:57:07 <petn-randall> Berlin is luckily a city that has a lot of options, and the venue is fairly central, allowing for good trip times to anywhere. 16:57:17 <petn-randall> #help ideas for the daytrip 16:57:48 <petn-randall> Alright, that's all from me, last topic is the next orga meeting. 16:58:39 <petn-randall> One month from now good? That would be October 5, 16:00 UTC. Is the time good? Earlier, later? 16:58:59 <werdahias> maybe the stasi museum or hohenschönhausen 16:59:05 <werdahias> for a day trip 16:59:26 <h01ger> teufelsberg 16:59:38 * werdahias agrees on the date 17:00:02 <werdahias> spreewald :P 17:00:13 <petn-randall> Teufelsberg would be nice, haven't be to the Abhöranlage for many years now. 17:01:15 <petn-randall> #info next meeting is Thursday, 2023-10-05, 16:00 UTC. 17:01:29 <petn-randall> Alright, any other questions/comments? 17:02:18 <petn-randall> cool cool, thanks everyone! 17:02:22 * h01ger cheers 17:02:34 <petn-randall> #endmeeting