14:29:41 <medicalwei[m]> #startmeeting 14:29:41 <MeetBot> Meeting started Thu Nov 16 14:29:41 2017 UTC. The chair is medicalwei[m]. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:29:41 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:30:10 <medicalwei[m]> #topic 0 - Roll call 14:30:15 <nattie> yo 14:30:15 <czchen> hi 14:30:24 <Delib> hi 14:30:41 <medicalwei[m]> Please say hello, and meanwhile please check the agenda @ http://deb.li/3OYuV . 14:30:42 <pollo> 0/ 14:30:47 <medicalwei[m]> owo/ 14:31:53 * medicalwei[m] pokes szlin ...? 14:33:17 <medicalwei[m]> Let's go ahead 14:33:29 <medicalwei[m]> #topic 1 - Sponsorship 14:34:08 <czchen> Sent mail to Appier, Synology. 14:34:20 <medicalwei[m]> We have 4 sponsors mailed, 2 sponsors reached but not yet mailed (which are from me), and 1 (Quanta) unreachable 14:34:39 <pollo> I'll try to send a few mails today 14:34:48 <pollo> there are still a lot of sponsors to be reached 14:35:03 <czchen> Try to reach gamesofa from my friend 14:35:53 <medicalwei[m]> Hideki (henrich) and Yutaka (gniibe) are going to find sponsors in Japan 14:35:59 <nattie> cool 14:36:07 <czchen> Who can take care of companies like HP, Google, ... ? 14:36:24 <nattie> are older, sstablished sponsors being contacted? 14:36:35 <pollo> czchen: anyone really 14:36:51 <medicalwei[m]> One of which includes Gandi, but from Taiwan branch. Should I let global team handover? 14:36:58 <czchen> nattie: I guess not. Do not receive any mail related to these companies. 14:37:02 <pollo> it's always a good idea to mail the compagnies who sponsored us in the previous years first 14:37:23 <nattie> that shold really happen... 14:37:59 <czchen> For older, sstablished sponsors, do we need the same contact person as previous? 14:38:21 <nattie> on their end or on ours? 14:38:29 <czchen> Our end 14:38:38 <pollo> if the previous contact wants to do it it's ok, but not necessary 14:38:42 <medicalwei[m]> Probably theirs too. 14:38:52 <pollo> I did a lof of them last year, lavamind too, and we won't be doing as much this year 14:39:03 <nattie> by preference yes, but it's not imperative 14:39:06 <czchen> How can we know if previous contact want to do or not? 14:39:24 <medicalwei[m]> Just ask (? 14:40:07 <Delib> Pollo, can you help advise this year's sponsor-contact people. It's nice to have known correspondents in the loop. Helps smooth communications. 14:40:19 <Delib> lavamind too? 14:40:39 <pollo> sure, as I said previously, I plan to do some of them this year 14:40:42 <pollo> just not all of them 14:40:50 <nattie> that can be discussed team-internally i think 14:40:54 <pollo> +1 14:40:56 <Delib> Even being available for cc might be helpful. 14:41:28 <pollo> focusing on translation the brochure in mandarin should be a priority imho 14:41:54 <medicalwei[m]> The flyer is translated into Chinese by me, but the URL for chinese brochure is a 404 14:42:11 <czchen> why 404? 14:42:13 <medicalwei[m]> Also I want to use deb.li because it is easier to type than to scan QR code 14:42:25 <medicalwei[m]> The chinese translation of the brochure is not ready yet 14:43:12 <medicalwei[m]> But at the time of me doing the translation the deb.li was unavailable... 14:43:32 <czchen> medicalwei[m]: Do you put zh_tw flyer to media.debconf.org ? 14:43:46 <medicalwei[m]> No. Hold on 14:44:00 <medicalwei[m]> Do I have the access to that? 14:44:24 <czchen> I guess so, https://anonscm.debian.org/git/debconf-data/media.debconf.org.git 14:44:37 <medicalwei[m]> OK I will do that later. 14:45:14 <medicalwei[m]> #action medicalwei to put translated flyer and brochure to media.debconf.org 14:45:21 * larjona says hello 14:45:30 <Delib> hi larjona 14:45:57 <nattie> heyhey larjona 14:46:07 <czchen> I will spend some time sending the sponsorship mails in sponsors-list. 14:47:11 <medicalwei[m]> #action pollo , lavamind and others volunteers to contact previous sponsors for thie year. 14:47:26 <Delib> ! :) 14:47:45 <pollo> you'll have to do some of it too :D 14:47:54 <larjona> about potential sponsors, I have a suggestion and a petition: please have a look at https://www.debian.org/users/ , you may find candidates for sponsors in the Taiwan or nearby Debian users. If you contact some of them, please consider asking them check/update their info in www.d.o/users (it may be outdated). Count with me for any update/addition/removal on that section of the website 14:48:12 <medicalwei[m]> And I am going to IT month in December for promoting Debian and DC18, and I will put sponsorship information and printed flyers and brochure and stickers at the venue 14:48:54 <czchen> larjona: thanks for the info. 14:49:23 <Delib> That's great medicalwei[m], It's good to have your graphics skills there too. 14:50:05 <medicalwei[m]> larjona: by simple glancing the page I found (almost) no Taiwanese company on the list 14:50:52 <medicalwei[m]> I probably need budget to print flyers and stickers. Should send a mail to trasurer for such spending? 14:50:52 <Delib> Can focus on "our first Asian debconf" when asking for updates to https://www.debian.org/users/ 14:53:46 <Delib> medicalwei[m], no response to your budget question? 14:54:17 <pollo> work should be done to come up with a global budget for the conf 14:54:25 <pollo> then that budget should get approved by the DPL 14:54:35 <pollo> once that is done, you can spend the money 14:54:50 <pollo> you can also spend some before the budget approval, just not tons of it 14:55:30 <medicalwei[m]> Ok... I will probably spend 3000 NTD (or less) for printed goods 14:56:10 <medicalwei[m]> #action medicalwei to print flyers and stickers at the print shop 14:56:43 <medicalwei[m]> Is that okay to go to the next topic? 14:57:35 <medicalwei[m]> #topic 2 - Website update 14:58:03 <medicalwei[m]> The https://media.debconf.org/reports/ seems stuck at DC15 14:58:29 <nattie> yeah, about that 14:58:47 <pollo> highvoltage: poke poke, dc16's final report? :D 14:59:04 <pollo> we should start dc17's one soonish 15:00:10 <medicalwei[m]> DC18's wafer is not yet online. Should we start it sooner or we can leave that for another month? 15:01:21 <pollo> poke tumbleweed ? 15:01:41 <pollo> what is the registration timeline you are planning to go with? 15:01:42 * medicalwei[m] pokes tumblingweed and tumbleweed (?? 15:02:12 <pollo> website needs to be up and running by the start of the registration period 15:02:23 <pollo> and it will need some work prior to that 15:03:05 <medicalwei[m]> We wrote on the timeline on March 2018 15:03:18 <czchen> I think early registration is better for attendees to get cheap tickets. 15:03:53 <medicalwei[m]> We postponed a lot according to the timeline O_O 15:04:21 <medicalwei[m]> *a lot of things 15:04:24 <Delib> Who normally works on wafer? 15:04:38 <nattie> czchen: ideally yes, but we have to work with what is really available 15:04:47 <pollo> having registration start late caused us problems last year in term of accommodation and sponsorship 15:05:09 <nattie> there will be work happening on it next week 15:05:20 <Delib> nice 15:06:04 <medicalwei[m]> https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf18/Timeline 15:06:10 <Delib> Should we estimate registration opening in March? 15:06:29 <nattie> that seems usual 15:06:47 <larjona> You need wafer open before, to accept the proposals (talks, events...) submissions... 15:06:52 <larjona> You -> we 15:07:08 <medicalwei[m]> Our plan for CfP is at February 15:07:40 <medicalwei[m]> Call for Papers 15:08:00 <nattie> we don't really do papers anymore 15:08:30 <Delib> call for talk proposals 15:09:39 <medicalwei[m]> Anyways... so 15:10:19 <medicalwei[m]> #action website team (tumbleweed, tumblingweed, medicalwei[m], etc.) to put wafer available before calling for proposals (scheduled Feb 2018) 15:10:41 <Delib> I put cfp and estimated registration openning in Feb & March on timeline. 15:11:10 <Delib> oops, that was 2017... 15:11:17 <medicalwei[m]> #action medicalwei[m] to update the timeline 15:12:16 <medicalwei[m]> #action highvoltage to put DC16 final reports on media.debconf.org 15:12:17 <medicalwei[m]> (? 15:13:14 <Delib> sorry, just an edit error. 15:13:20 <medicalwei[m]> #topic 3 - DC17 Status Update 15:13:47 <medicalwei[m]> #save 15:13:49 <pollo> the dc17 website is ready to become static now 15:13:54 <pollo> tumbleweed: ^^ 15:14:18 <pollo> I still have to import the bursaries data in ledger, but that's all 15:14:27 <pollo> accoutning is thus 95% done 15:14:48 <pollo> I've tried to convince folks that we should start working on the final report 15:14:58 <pollo> I guess we'll meet in Dec to do that 15:15:13 <pollo> I guess that sums it up 15:15:33 <medicalwei[m]> #info dc17 website is ready to be static 15:15:53 <medicalwei[m]> #action pollo and other members from DC17 team to work on the final report 15:16:35 <medicalwei[m]> #info accounting is 95% done 15:16:58 <medicalwei[m]> #topic 4 - DSA Migration 15:17:17 <pollo> I've ping DSA about the kanboard migration today 15:19:07 <medicalwei[m]> (oops i didn't use the kanboard for a long while) 15:19:28 <szlin> :p sorry for late, just talked with potential sponsor 15:19:30 <Delib> kanboard still thinks you are working on meettaiwan 15:19:49 <Delib> yeay szlin :) 15:19:58 <medicalwei[m]> Delib: for that the proposal is already sent. (will put it in Misc) 15:20:07 <medicalwei[m]> (Thanks for reminding) 15:20:13 <Delib> :) 15:20:38 <Delib> (coffee helps me smile more now) :) 15:21:06 <medicalwei[m]> And nattie, for the wafer you said there's something going to happen. Is that DSA infra related? 15:21:50 <nattie> i don't believe so, not directly anyway 15:21:50 <medicalwei[m]> #info mailing list migrated to lists.debian.org 15:22:25 <medicalwei[m]> I see 15:22:38 <medicalwei[m]> So what remains to be migrated or discarded or archived? 15:23:14 * medicalwei[m] rushs to mailbox and check them 15:23:54 <cate> the list webpages (with subscription) are still in lists.dc.o 15:24:58 <cate> I think we should go to general debconf website and wiki, and update the links for our mailing list 15:25:17 <Delib> #info the list webpages (with subscription) are still in lists.dc.o 15:25:54 <pollo> 0/ gotta run 15:26:10 <Delib> bye for now pollo 15:26:30 <medicalwei[m]> #info DSA is pinged about migrating kanboard to Debian infra 15:27:20 <Delib> cate, do those update suggestions need a decision? 15:27:44 <medicalwei[m]> Delib: what do you mean @@? 15:28:28 <Delib> should "update the links for our mailing list". 15:29:07 <cate> Delib: no. just volunteers 15:29:09 <medicalwei[m]> #action anyone with right permissions to update wiki and website for the mailing list links 15:29:43 <medicalwei[m]> #topic 99 - Miscellaneous 15:29:45 <Delib> I could volunteer, but need to research the new info. Not familiar. 15:30:12 <medicalwei[m]> Probably just replace "lists.debconf.org" to "lists.debian.org" (?) 15:30:18 <Delib> ok 15:30:34 <Delib> will look at it. 15:30:42 <cate> possibly some directories un URL should be changed. We should look it 15:31:41 <medicalwei[m]> #info Dr. Huang from NCTU submitted proposal for MEET TAIWAN fund. We estimate there will be 12 invited speakers sponsored for flight tickets and meals 15:32:01 <cate> For miscelaneous: we should, I think, start the selection of dc19 15:32:05 <medicalwei[m]> but the actual number from the fund orga is not yet sure 15:33:02 <medicalwei[m]> #info debconf-team to start the selection of DC19 bids 15:33:03 <Delib> Thanks for number of 12 invites. Hopefully it will not sidetrack content team too much with changed criteria for invitations. 15:33:17 <cate> OdyX: ^^ 15:33:42 <medicalwei[m]> We will need speaker bios and probably list them as "invited speakers" 15:33:56 <OdyX> cate: indeed. 15:33:56 <medicalwei[m]> (And they will need printed flight tickets) 15:34:15 <OdyX> cate: I'm underwaters, but will see what we can get the DCC to do 15:34:51 <cate> OdyX: nothing urgent, but some question are starting (deadline for bid process) 15:35:00 <medicalwei[m]> (by underwater, does it mean someone is inactive of somewhere?) 15:35:20 <Delib> #info MeetTaiwan funding for up to 12 invited speakers will require speaker bios. 15:35:26 <cate> medicalwei[m]: no, it means: extremely busy 15:35:39 <Delib> almost drowning in work. 15:35:53 <szlin> ++ 15:36:53 <medicalwei[m]> do we have anything yet to report? thinks as if he missed something 15:37:06 <medicalwei[m]> #save 15:38:42 <medicalwei[m]> Wrapping it up :) 15:38:51 <Delib> Thanks medicalwei[m] 15:38:52 <medicalwei[m]> #endmeeting