14:29:50 <medicalwei> #startmeeting 14:29:50 <MeetBot> Meeting started Thu Jun 21 14:29:50 2018 UTC. The chair is medicalwei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:29:50 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:29:54 <medicalwei> #topic Roll call 14:29:57 <jidanni> Hi. 14:29:59 <paulliu1> hi 14:30:02 <lenharo> hi 14:30:02 <medicalwei> Say hi if you are here for the meeting// 14:30:04 <szlin> hi 14:30:10 <AndrewLee> hi 14:30:12 <paulliu1> hi 14:30:13 <medicalwei> Also please check https://deb.li/3OYuV for meeting agenda 14:30:16 <bremner> o/ 14:30:20 <DLange> howdie 14:30:22 <czchen> hi 14:30:23 <medicalwei> paulliu1: you are saying hi twice :) 14:30:36 <gavin> hi 14:30:38 <czchen> using mobile now. 14:31:05 <medicalwei> #topic Job Fair 14:31:08 <jidanni> Please update https://debconf18.debconf.org/schedule/important-dates/ to say 14:31:08 <medicalwei> jidanni: // 14:31:13 <jidanni> correct date. 14:32:01 <jidanni> I assume 7/28 is the correct date. 14:32:15 <czchen> do we check with sponsor about participating job fair? 14:32:31 <medicalwei> #action website team to update https://debconf18.debconf.org/schedule/important-dates/ to correct date of job fair 14:32:55 <jidanni> Thanks. 14:33:11 <medicalwei> czchen: afaik zumbi[m] is doing that. 14:33:26 <medicalwei> #topic Opening Ceremony 14:33:34 <medicalwei> (... should that go under Open Day?) 14:33:40 <jidanni> So there are two types of Opening Ceremony, one 7/28 one 7/29? 14:34:05 <medicalwei> #action website team to update https://debconf18.debconf.org/schedule/important-dates/ to correct date of opening ceremony 14:34:22 <jidanni> OK glad there is only one. 14:34:24 <jidanni> Thanks. 14:34:54 <medicalwei> But 7/29 is the opening ceremony for DebConf I think 14:35:00 <medicalwei> 7/28 opening is for open day 14:35:14 <DLange> makes sense 14:35:25 <jidanni> Do we need 7/29 bigwigs? 14:35:31 <DLange> no 14:35:38 <jidanni> Good. 14:35:54 <medicalwei> Anything else? 14:36:02 <jidanni> No. 14:36:08 <medicalwei> #topic Conference Dinner 14:36:14 <jidanni> When and where is the Conference Dinner. I need to tell Vice President Lin. 14:36:30 <jidanni> 8/2 but what time? 14:36:55 <jidanni> And place? 14:37:22 <medicalwei> jidanni: in NCTU, but time... unsure. 14:37:48 <jidanni> NCTU big place... 14:38:03 <medicalwei> jidanni: in MIRC probably 14:38:16 <gwolf> o/ ! 14:38:18 <medicalwei> Also, content team would control the time 14:38:30 <jidanni> OK... so maybe 7 PM... 14:38:39 <medicalwei> so gwolf the time lord, what's your comments on the conference dinner? 14:39:26 <DLange> dc16 was 6pm, dc17 was 7pm 14:39:35 <gwolf> Time lord because I'm never on time? :-| 14:39:37 <bremner> so 8pm? 14:39:44 <gwolf> I have no strong comments... 14:40:04 <DLange> I think 6pm is better because the place to sleep is far away 14:40:05 <medicalwei> gwolf: I mean, content team controls the schedule of the conference dinner 14:40:14 <DLange> so not easy to go and have a break before dinner 14:40:24 <gwolf> bremner: hmmm, according to that logic, at DC0 conference dinner was at 2AM (which _could_ make sense), but for DC9 it was at 11AM. Hardly a dinner 14:40:29 <AndrewLee> Must be somewhere inside NCTU. 14:40:37 <gwolf> medicalwei: It happens after the last talk, so it's outside my jurisdiction :) 14:40:45 <jidanni> When is the last talk? 14:41:03 <gwolf> medicalwei: In fact (but please remind me after the meeting finishes), I want _you_ to give me the times to start building the schedule. 14:41:17 <gwolf> Which time does our _usual_ dinner start? 14:41:20 <AndrewLee> The conference room is open from 9am-8pm <= Am I remembered correctly? 14:41:23 <gwolf> Last talk finishes just before that 14:41:42 <medicalwei> #action medicalwei to remind gwolf about building the conference schedule 14:41:53 <AndrewLee> gwolf: usual dinner starts from 17:30 to 18:30 here. 14:42:08 <jidanni> 8PM quite late. 14:42:09 <gwolf> ouch, how early! :-| I'm usually still having lunch by 17:00 14:42:23 <AndrewLee> gwolf: some restaurant out of foods if it's close to 19:00. 14:42:36 <bremner> could we defer the time decision to local team and move on? 14:42:36 <medicalwei> AndrewLee: 8am to 8pm 14:42:47 <gwolf> So we could close the academic program around there. If possible, I'd suggest at least 18:00. 14:42:53 <gwolf> bremner: /me agrees 14:42:57 <jidanni> Well I need to tell the VP something. 14:43:03 <medicalwei> #action medicalwei to send followups about the conference dinner schedule 14:43:05 <DLange> why not decide on 6pm and be done with it? 14:43:12 <jidanni> GOOD 6PM 14:43:14 <gwolf> Conference dinner is special in many regards, so I yield all authority to locals :) 14:43:20 <medicalwei> #undo 14:43:20 <MeetBot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Action object at 0xf7d0d0> 14:43:27 <medicalwei> Agree on 6pm as well 14:43:33 <medicalwei> Any objections? 14:43:34 <AndrewLee> jidanni: Ask VP to suggest a good place to host the nice dinner inside NCTU? :D 14:43:40 <czchen> good for me 14:43:56 <DLange> +1 14:44:05 <jidanni> Dr. Lin is a super speaker. 14:44:09 <AndrewLee> +1 14:44:11 <medicalwei> #agreed Conference dinner starts at 6pm 14:44:21 <DLange> and any other dinner, too ^ 14:44:26 <jidanni> 林一平 14:44:27 <medicalwei> #undo 14:44:27 <MeetBot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Agreed object at 0x20a2950> 14:44:38 <medicalwei> #agreed Dinner starts at 6pm (including conference dinner) 14:44:45 <AndrewLee> I scheduled the dinner time on 17:30 on the OpenDay wiki. 14:45:00 <olasd> I think we'll manage 14:45:00 <jidanni> 17:30 even better. 14:45:09 <gwolf> jidanni: who is Dr. Lin? Speaker for _during_ the conference? 14:45:24 <jidanni> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lin_Yi-bing 14:45:32 <DLange> AndrewLee: make that 6pm then for consistency 14:45:33 <medicalwei> VP of NCTU 14:45:39 <AndrewLee> Conference dinner could be 30mins late than usual one as people needs time to dress themselves. 14:46:01 <szlin> gwolf: Vice Chancellor：Dr. Jason Yi-Bing Lin 14:46:03 <jidanni> Do we need a fancy restaurant inside NCTU? 14:46:11 <AndrewLee> DLange: cause I scheudled the last talk after dinner as the conference room closed on 8pm. 14:46:36 <DLange> AndrewLee: no way to run back and forth between the venue and the accomm in 30mins anyways 14:46:46 <gwolf> oh, and there are activities scheduled after dinner? 14:46:50 * gwolf no like that :-| 14:46:54 <bremner> the on campus accom is far from the talks? 14:46:56 <DLange> so that doesn't help. If you want to change, skip the last session or bring your clothes 14:47:00 <medicalwei> AndrewLee: Do we need to be consistent about the dinner time at 17:30 or 18:00? 14:47:17 <medicalwei> #undo 14:47:17 <MeetBot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Link object at 0x20928d0> 14:47:38 <gwolf> AndrewLee: For regular days, I'd like to have it 18:00. Regular conference days don't work correctly starting at 9AM from past experience 14:47:50 <AndrewLee> Should we make it 1hr late for conference dinner on 18:30 for people to go back to dress themselves? 14:47:50 <gwolf> (but I suggest we discuss the schedule at AOB) 14:48:21 <gwolf> I think 18:30 is better - Dress themselves, find the right place, get there at a leisurely pace... 14:48:31 <AndrewLee> gwolf: I agree with you. Maybe 9AM opening is only for Open day. :D 14:48:49 <jidanni> OK I will tell the VP 18:30 @ MIRC. 14:48:53 <gwolf> It is a special dinner, so we will have the restaurant blocked for our use, and food won't run out early 14:49:09 <AndrewLee> gwolf: And then we shift the time to rent the conference from 10am-10pm? 14:49:21 <gavin> For childcare service, the would provide be provided to dinner time. 14:49:29 <medicalwei> AndrewLee: we still need time to set up video team stuffs 14:49:34 <gwolf> AndrewLee: Again, I think we are invading "Conference Dinner". 14:49:42 <gwolf> But yes, starting at 10 makes much more sense for us 14:49:56 <AndrewLee> medicalwei: ok. how about 9am to 9pm. and the first talk of DebConf starts from 10pm? 14:49:59 <gwolf> Please keep in mind what medicalwei said - We cannot unlock doors and be ready to roll. We need setup 14:50:09 <AndrewLee> s/10pm/10AM/ 14:50:10 <gwolf> starts from 10AM, I guess you mean 14:50:11 <gavin> To 9pm, the work time for sitters is too long. 14:50:16 <gwolf> makes sense 14:50:32 <AndrewLee> gwolf: 9AM don't really work for developers. :D 14:50:33 <medicalwei> gavin: ouch. 14:50:35 <jidanni> Taiwan does not use daylight savings time. 14:51:05 <jidanni> Taiwan does not have as long days as northern latitudes. 14:51:09 <gwolf> jidanni: still, people adjust their times according to the watch 14:51:33 <medicalwei> I think we can put the scheduling stuff to content topic 14:51:35 <gwolf> I expect activity to die off at the time clocks point to ~2-3AM, no matter the light in the sky 14:51:54 <jidanni> Best to match when univsity staff are still there and not gone home. 14:51:57 <medicalwei> Also we seems don't agree on the (conference) dinner time so I undone all these 14:52:24 <gwolf> Repeating from the meeting agenda - «Please, keep the meeting as short as possible. Chair will send a follow-up email to debconf-team@l.d.o for topics taking for more than 5 minutes.» 14:52:30 <jidanni> Well I will tell the VP 18:30 @ MIRC. 14:52:32 <AndrewLee> Any suggestion on normal breakfast time? 14:52:33 <medicalwei> gwolf: thanks 14:52:44 <medicalwei> #topic Accommodation 14:52:55 <medicalwei> Sorry for force switching 14:53:16 <jidanni> Got dorm floor plans. 14:53:22 <medicalwei> #link https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf18/Accommodation#Maps Venue floor plans 14:53:32 <medicalwei> #info Bedding supplies: quoted and ready to order when cashflow is okay? 14:53:47 <medicalwei> paulliu1: when would you like to start ordering? 14:54:11 <paulliu1> tomorrow 14:54:25 <medicalwei> #info Bedding supplies: quoted and will order tomorrow 14:54:30 <medicalwei> Nothing else from me 14:54:40 <paulliu1> i will pay first 14:55:16 <DLange> medicalwei: can you document the type of bedding provided, we had an email request accordingly 14:55:23 <paulliu1> so we don't need a tw invoice for expense right? 14:55:28 <DLange> (like how thick is the mattress etc.) 14:55:47 <paulliu1> about 5cm thick 14:55:54 <medicalwei> paulliu1: we need invoice yes, but it is acceptable either with or without tax afaik? 14:55:59 <medicalwei> AndrewLee: ^? 14:56:25 <paulliu1> 90x180 cm for lower bed 14:56:26 <DLange> paulliu1: pics? 14:56:41 <luca> DLange: getting worried? :) 14:56:41 <paulliu1> and 75x180 for upper 14:56:44 <paulliu1> wait 14:57:14 <paulliu1> https://goods.ruten.com.tw/item/show?21103242267909#qa&p=1 14:57:53 <paulliu1> one side is bamboo one side is cloth 14:58:01 <DLange> luca: not me, somebody else who wrote to regq 14:58:07 <DLange> ... reg@ 14:58:26 <paulliu1> bamboo side for summer 14:58:49 <medicalwei> Yes, upper bunker bed has shorter width due to the blocking column 14:59:05 <medicalwei> #link https://goods.ruten.com.tw/item/show?21103242267909#qa&p=1 14:59:15 <gwolf> If we are targetting two people per room, we can basically ignore the upper bunker bed and use the lower? 14:59:52 <medicalwei> gwolf: Probably yes. 14:59:53 <paulliu1> yes but i'm sure how many upper/lower i put half half 15:00:14 <paulliu1> i'm not sure 15:00:47 <gwolf> paulliu1: I suggest to try to fill lowers first 15:00:58 <gwolf> I mean, I know I'm oversized, but I'd be much happier at 90cm than at 75 15:01:04 <medicalwei> gwolf: but he's going to order these tomorrow 15:01:18 <gwolf> Well, we know the number of _rooms_ we have 15:01:22 <medicalwei> Do we need to lower the quantity? or try ordering more 90cm than 75cm? 15:01:27 <gwolf> thus, we know the number of beds 15:01:51 <gwolf> I suggest to fill the 90cm beds first, and see how many 75cm ones we would realistically use 15:02:02 <lenharo> i think it could be better to know before how many 90cm and 75cm will be necessary. 15:02:24 <taowa> Hello. I'm around, but getting ready for a trip... 15:02:25 <paulliu1> currently 125 75cm and 125 90cm 15:02:26 <medicalwei> We are targetting 250 beds, while we have 400 bed frames available 15:02:48 <medicalwei> where 200 are lower, 200 are upper 15:02:58 <gwolf> Why not buy 200 lowers and 50 uppers? 15:03:28 <DLange> yes, what gwolf says makes sense 15:03:29 <medicalwei> That's probably good? paulliu1 ? 15:03:31 <lenharo> i think 200 lowers and 50 uppers is better... as we have 400 bed frames available. 15:04:03 <paulliu1> ok I will change my order tommorow. 15:04:23 <paulliu1> 200 lower 50 upper 15:04:37 <phls> is the mattress only 5cm? 15:04:39 <medicalwei> Anything else? 15:04:48 <paulliu1> thickness is 5cm 15:05:01 <medicalwei> phls: I think that's most beds used in dorm 15:05:13 <medicalwei> (at least in TW) 15:05:17 <paulliu1> yeah quite standard 15:05:50 <medicalwei> #topic Budgeting 15:05:56 * phls prepare the spine... 15:05:56 <paulliu1> cotton filled 15:06:00 * gwolf ponders his nice 35cm mattress... 15:06:17 <medicalwei> #info We seems have to add drinking cups and dining tools into our swags , for: 15:06:20 <medicalwei> Trying to use up MEET TAIWAN's budget 15:06:21 <medicalwei> Dining on-site 15:06:38 <medicalwei> #info OCF.tw needs a trial run of SPI's reimbursement workflow. We need to send RT ticket to SPI for reimbursing T-shirts and towels. 15:06:59 <medicalwei> #info OCF requests SPI to pay full amount. 15:07:28 <medicalwei> #info We may also reimburse travel bursaries of panel speakers in MEET TAIWAN, and wire transfer the money to SPI. 15:08:18 <medicalwei> DLange: May we start reimbursing stuffs tomorrow? 15:08:24 <DLange> sure 15:08:39 <medicalwei> DLange: Please tell me the workflow after the meeting 15:08:49 <medicalwei> AndrewLee: please also follow... 15:08:56 <medicalwei> Nothing else from me 15:09:04 <DLange> #link https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DPL/Reimbursement#SPI 15:09:04 <medicalwei> #topic Venue 15:09:16 <medicalwei> #topic NCTU seems cannot provide on-site Wi-Fi as promised since they removed their campus-provided access points in MIRC elsewhere than the conference rooms. 15:09:21 <medicalwei> #undo 15:09:21 <MeetBot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Topic object at 0x2400110> 15:09:25 <medicalwei> #topic Venue 15:09:31 <medicalwei> #info NCTU seems cannot provide on-site Wi-Fi as promised since they removed their campus-provided access 15:09:42 <medicalwei> #undo 15:09:42 <MeetBot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Info object at 0x2400b90> 15:09:53 <medicalwei> #topic NCTU seems cannot provide on-site Wi-Fi as promised since they removed their campus-provided access points in MIRC elsewhere than the conference rooms 15:09:57 <medicalwei> #undo 15:09:57 <MeetBot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Topic object at 0x216abd0> 15:09:59 <medicalwei> ...... 15:10:14 <medicalwei> #info NCTU seems cannot provide on-site Wi-Fi as promised since they removed their campus-provided access points in MIRC elsewhere than the conference rooms 15:10:25 <gwolf> ouch. That means we have to provide our own wireless connection equipment and handle all the net-foo 15:11:13 <medicalwei> #action medicalwei to discuss with NCTU and possibly company he has contact for backup plans 15:11:40 <medicalwei> Nothing else from me. Anything else? 15:11:51 <czchen> Nothing from me 15:11:57 <medicalwei> #topic Swags 15:12:04 <medicalwei> #info Lanyards and badge sleeves: arrived 15:12:09 <medicalwei> #info T-shirts: ordered 15:12:13 <medicalwei> #info Towels: ordered 15:12:19 <medicalwei> #info Bags: finalizing design 15:12:28 <medicalwei> #info Dining tools: quotes ready 15:12:33 <medicalwei> #info Drinking cups: quotes ready 15:13:12 * medicalwei[m] uploaded an image: ima_b7f7c76.jpeg (1091KB) <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/qTaOhGPDmaOluZBGLFmdZNwX> 15:13:31 <medicalwei> That arrived in Pamper's box 15:13:51 <medicalwei> Nothing else from me 15:14:10 <DLange> the lanyards look very nice, medicalwei 15:15:04 <czchen> good job 15:15:05 <medicalwei> #topic Open Day 15:15:08 <jidanni> The Dean will give the Opening Remarks. 15:15:52 <jidanni> That's all. 15:15:59 <medicalwei> Also we are adjusting schedule because we have to honor catering company's working schedule. 15:16:07 <medicalwei> #info The Dean will give the Opening Remarks. 15:16:33 <medicalwei> Anything else? 15:16:59 <medicalwei> #topic Content 15:17:14 <medicalwei> gwolf: anything to update? 15:17:37 <gwolf> Well, I have been slow to work during this week 15:17:53 <gwolf> But we have to finish rating the last submitted talks before the end of the CfP 15:18:13 <gwolf> #info CfP has ended, so all talks for official schedule have been received 15:18:29 <gwolf> ...nicoo told me he would look into the invited speakers area, as I'm really unable to do so 15:18:48 <gwolf> It is possible we won't have any, as we are quit close to the conference, but we have a couple of suggestions in the pipeline 15:18:50 <medicalwei> #info nicoo is looking into the invited speakers area 15:19:06 <jidanni> Do we give openday speakers money? 15:19:15 <gwolf> My next step (after rating what needs to be rated yet) is to start building the schedule. 15:19:19 <gwolf> jidanni: what? no! Why? 15:19:31 <jidanni> OK good to know. 15:19:33 <gwolf> We have never (and I believe we should never) pay our speakers for participation 15:19:57 <DLange> we re-imburse their efforts for travel etc. though 15:20:01 <medicalwei> gwolf: how about local speakers? do we pay their travel fee as well? 15:20:04 <gwolf> Do you want to discuss schedule layout now or after the end of the meeting? (or at the end of the meeting) 15:20:40 <gwolf> medicalwei: Makes sense (in the OpenDay area)... Specially if we invited them 15:20:45 <medicalwei> gwolf: preferably after the meeting. 15:20:56 <gwolf> Has somebody *requested* to be reimbursed for getting to Hsinchu? 15:21:09 <medicalwei> gwolf: no idea really 15:21:31 <medicalwei> okay. anything else? 15:21:34 <gwolf> I don't expect travel costs for people coming from within Taiwan to be high... So, I would agree on using our "invited speakers" budget to cover OpenDay participants' travel costs 15:21:43 <gwolf> But _not_ pay for their conferencing services. 15:22:05 <gwolf> That's it from me, I guess 15:22:08 <medicalwei> Okay. 15:22:18 <medicalwei> #topic Bursaries 15:22:57 <medicalwei> olasd: How many people has confirmed from the first round? 15:23:16 <olasd> that's in the statistics page 15:23:20 <medicalwei> ah ok 15:23:31 <olasd> 41 accepted 23 pending 15:23:58 <gwolf> how long do first rounders have for accepting? 15:24:08 <olasd> until the end of the week 15:24:14 <gwolf> should a warning mail be sent to the 23 pending? 15:24:18 <olasd> yesw 15:24:40 <medicalwei> #info 41 accepted 23 pending 15:25:02 <medicalwei> Will there be second round of bursaries coming? 15:25:11 <gwolf> There was, I can assert 15:25:12 <olasd> there has already been a second round 15:25:17 <medicalwei> okay... 15:25:48 <medicalwei> Anything else worth of mention 15:25:49 <medicalwei> ? 15:25:56 <olasd> I don't think so 15:26:02 <medicalwei> #topic Childcare 15:26:03 <medicalwei> gavin: 15:26:07 <gavin> OCF just replied that the contract for sitters is basically OK. 15:26:14 <gavin> I will contact sitters to sign the contract 15:26:25 <gavin> OCF asks that do the children and sitters have the public liability insurance? 15:26:42 <gavin> They suggest to have just in case 15:27:09 <medicalwei> #info OCF accepts the format of babysitters contract, and the contract will be signed by sitters. 15:27:35 <medicalwei> czchen: could you check if that's covered? 15:28:01 <gavin> and for the work time, 15:28:20 <gavin> If we have conference after dinner, I plan to ask parents if they need childcare after dinner time 15:28:29 <gavin> Generally, the work time for sitters is around 8 hours. 15:28:36 <gavin> 10AM to 10PM seems too long for childcare 15:28:42 <medicalwei> #info the work time for sitters is around 8 hours 15:28:51 <DLange> no, please don't. If parents bring children they can organize well after hours 15:28:56 <czchen> okay, will check it. 15:29:00 <gwolf> gavin: I agree. For everybody (children included) 15:29:14 <gavin> :) 15:29:22 <gwolf> IMO the service should be provided only during conference (talks) hours. 15:29:28 <DLange> +1 15:29:47 <gwolf> So I guess it would be more 10-13, 15-19 or something like that 15:29:55 <gwolf> (or at most 10-18) 15:30:03 <gavin> agree 15:30:09 <gwolf> (of course, talking later about schedule...) 15:30:28 <medicalwei> Anything else about the childcare? 15:30:33 <gavin> nothing else from me 15:30:36 <medicalwei> #topic Visa 15:31:09 <czchen> We has sent eCode request to NCTU. They will send to government. 15:31:38 <medicalwei> #info eCode request is sent to NCTU. They will send them to government. 15:31:40 <czchen> OCF.tw also suggests attendee to get regular VISA since they have bad experience in eCode request. 15:31:50 <medicalwei> czchen: do we have any idea that when will we get the code? 15:32:12 <gwolf> czchen: Good thing OCF suggests that. Also, I was surprised to learn that a regular visa is US$50, while an eCode visa is US$75 15:32:13 <medicalwei> czchen: ah ok 15:32:16 <czchen> No idea, the document say we shall send it 1 month before the event. 15:32:21 <gwolf> (I got a regulr visa, of course) 15:32:22 <medicalwei> gwolf: !? 15:32:46 <gwolf> medicalwei: eCode visas are handled via a third-party company that charges $25, according ot the info I found 15:32:48 <jidanni> But applying for two visas might be illegal. 15:32:57 <jidanni> 1 + 1 = 0! 15:32:59 <czchen> #action czchen will send a mail about current eCode situation and suggest people to get regular VISA first. 15:33:07 <gwolf> jidanni: ...I don't think it's illegal, but it would be somewhat stupid :-] 15:33:28 <gwolf> FWIW this was a strict-requirement visa request, I even sweated it at some point! 15:33:54 <jidanni> If it were the USA it might get you banned for life. 15:34:00 <gwolf> I sent one of the documents they require to show work stability (my work deposit receipt, showing I've been employed here for 17 years) 15:34:24 <gwolf> They insisted that they wanted a proof of wealth - A bank statement with a balance >US$1500 for a month 15:34:26 <medicalwei> Sorry. Anything else about the visa? 15:34:58 <czchen> Nothing from me. 15:35:06 <medicalwei> #topic Insurance 15:35:36 <medicalwei> #info Insurance is applied? 15:35:48 <medicalwei> #undo 15:35:48 <MeetBot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Info object at 0x23901d0> 15:36:07 <medicalwei> I think the insurance is ready. OCF is signing contract to the insurance company 15:36:35 <medicalwei> czchen: ? 15:36:53 <czchen> Almost done. OCF is waiting invoice from insurance company now., 15:37:04 <medicalwei> #info OCF is waiting invoice from insurance company now 15:37:24 <medicalwei> #topic AOB 15:37:30 <jidanni> OK so no handing envelopes with fixed "transportation cost" "車馬費" money in them to local speakers after their talks. Good that we got this clear. Saves a lot of tax reporting fuss too. And then we don't have to ask them for their ID# either. 15:37:39 <medicalwei> I forgot if there's catering stuffs to report 15:37:41 <medicalwei> AndrewLee: ? 15:37:56 <gwolf> Just noting - We agreed to discuss schedule after the meeting finishes. 15:38:02 <medicalwei> ok 15:38:11 <DLange> we'd need to send an email to people registered with arrival info (opening times of venue, directions etc.), the bed / bedding info etc. 15:38:35 <jidanni> There are links on wiki for directions, etc. 15:38:36 <medicalwei> #action send an welcome email with arrival info to attendees 15:38:43 <szlin> Hackmd - <https://demo.hackmd.io/> would like to provide us conference plan service for advertising exchanges 15:39:36 <medicalwei> #info Hackmd - <https://demo.hackmd.io/> would like to provide us conference plan service for advertising exchanges 15:39:48 <DLange> In my view we have a storm instance and Gobby, so we don't need hackmd 15:40:05 <jidanni> https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf18/Getting_Around#How_to_get_to_the_venue 15:40:11 <medicalwei> We use Gobby in our meeting actually. 15:40:23 <medicalwei> ...I mean in past DebConf 15:40:46 <DLange> in DC18, too, in case you get wifi on site medicalwei :) 15:41:10 <medicalwei> DLange: we also need wifi to use hackmd as well 15:41:37 <medicalwei> Next meeting time: 2018-06-28 22:30 UTC. Any objections? 15:41:43 <DLange> nopr 15:41:46 <jidanni> FIne. 15:41:57 <DLange> 22:30 UTC? 15:42:07 <medicalwei> OOPS 15:42:13 <zumbi> 14:30 UTC should say :) 15:42:14 <medicalwei> 2018-06-28 14:30 UTC 15:42:18 <jidanni> FIne. 15:42:27 <DLange> nopr then :) 15:42:30 <czchen> good for me 15:42:38 <szlin> LGTM 15:42:46 <medicalwei> #agreed Next meeting time: 2018-06-28 22:30 UTC 15:42:53 <zumbi> #undo 15:42:54 <medicalwei> #endmeeting