21:58:50 <terceiro> #startmeeting 21:58:50 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Nov 5 21:58:50 2018 UTC. The chair is terceiro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:58:50 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 21:58:59 <terceiro> #topic roll call 21:59:03 <terceiro> hello everyone 21:59:08 <nattie> olá! 21:59:09 <DLange> o/ 21:59:10 <tumbleweed> o/ 21:59:10 <terceiro> say hello if you are in the meetings 21:59:17 <lenharo> Olá!!! 21:59:22 <lenharo> Hello! 21:59:25 <siqueira> hello 21:59:26 <samueloph> E aí 21:59:43 <jova2> Hello! 21:59:57 <nattie> someone remind us of the agenda link, please? for those who didn't open it before the meeting started 22:00:05 <tumbleweed> #info https://deb.li/dc19meet 22:00:08 <nattie> cheers 22:01:12 <terceiro> let's go ahead then 22:01:25 <terceiro> #topic Review #action's from previous metting 22:01:38 <terceiro> I will paste each action here for comment 22:01:50 * terceiro hotel contract: terceiro to figure out cost for children, and how old a child need to be to pay full 22:02:15 <terceiro> this was done; children up to 7 don't pay. older children pay full. 22:02:28 <terceiro> #info in contract: children up to 7 don't pay. older children pay full. 22:02:41 <terceiro> next is me again 22:02:44 * terceiro terceiro: drop one-room-person price from contract since we won't use it 22:03:09 <terceiro> it turns out *I* misunderstood the terms, so this didn't really apply 22:03:23 <terceiro> #info "drop one-room-person price from contract since we won't use it" 22:03:26 <nattie> could you give us -v on that? 22:03:26 <terceiro> #undo 22:03:26 <MeetBot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Info object at 0x1388a50> 22:03:51 <terceiro> nattie: so I though that "single room" meant room with 1 bed, but it means room with 1 person 22:04:06 <nattie> i see! 22:04:12 <terceiro> we though this didn't apply to us, because we were not reserving any rooms with just 1 bed 22:04:20 * nattie sort of remembers this discussion from somewhere 22:05:09 <terceiro> #info "drop one-room-person price from contract since we won't use" didn't really apply to us 22:05:25 <terceiro> next 22:05:27 * terceiro terceiro: clarify hotel contract wrt exactly how the pricing works 22:06:20 <terceiro> this was more or less a reiteration of the previous one. but we are done there 22:06:28 <terceiro> contract signed and all that 22:07:10 <terceiro> next 22:07:14 * terceiro samueloph will lead the review of the timeline in the wiki 22:08:04 <terceiro> samueloph: ^ 22:08:17 <samueloph> sorry I missed that, can you keep this one for me? It's not the I didn't had time, I Just forgot 22:08:33 <terceiro> ok 22:08:41 <terceiro> #action samueloph will lead the review of the timeline in the wiki 22:08:43 <samueloph> will do it very very soon (tomorrow max) 22:08:59 <samueloph> s/the/that 22:09:15 <terceiro> ok; next 22:09:29 * terceiro larjona will add the publicity tasks to the timeline 22:09:57 <terceiro> larjona did create several issues in the salsa repo to keep track of the publicity tasks 22:10:15 <terceiro> I would consider that as done 22:10:18 <lenharo> https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-team/public/data/dc19/issues?label_name%5B%5D=Publicity 22:10:45 <lenharo> larjona send this link to debian-publicity 22:11:04 <terceiro> maybe the timeline should be a query on the salsa issues, after all 22:12:52 <lenharo> could be 22:12:53 <terceiro> I think we can move on 22:12:58 <DLange> if you put everything relevant into salsa issues that can work 22:13:11 <terceiro> yeah, that's the idea 22:13:46 <terceiro> last one 22:13:49 * terceiro terceiro will ellaborate a proposal for tools to be used in the DC19 organization and send it to the ML 22:13:51 <terceiro> me again 22:14:24 <terceiro> so I ended up not writing this; in the end we kind of have "rough consensus and working code", so it's not a big deal IMO 22:14:52 <terceiro> but I will get my act together and write the email 22:15:06 <terceiro> #action terceiro will ellaborate a proposal for tools to be used in the DC19 organization and send it to the ML 22:15:24 <DLange> well, we need something to get fundraising going. IRC sprints have been good for that in the past. 22:16:10 <terceiro> right. I can push that, if I know how to. do we have any record of the last one? 22:16:53 <terceiro> or maybe someone who did it before can push 22:17:58 <DLange> it's just calling for a sprint where everybody willing shows up works on sponsors 22:18:12 <DLange> the brochures need to be finished before that though 22:18:24 <terceiro> ok, there's a topic for that soon 22:18:29 <samueloph> brochures are finished 22:18:48 <DLange> incl. the new quote(s)? 22:18:59 <terceiro> let's wait a bit for that topic please to keep the minutes organized 22:19:05 <samueloph> ack 22:19:18 <terceiro> #topic Brief report from the local team sprint Oct 23-26 22:19:45 <terceiro> so this was a very productive sprint, and we brainstormed several logistics topics 22:19:53 <terceiro> let me find the link to the ML archives 22:20:21 <jova2> https://wiki.debian.org/DebConf/19/Meetings/Sprint201810English 22:20:40 <terceiro> yeah that one, thanks jova2 22:21:23 <terceiro> I just want to reaffirm how useful it is to have people physically together 22:21:38 <samueloph> yes, we have made a lot of progress there 22:21:44 <terceiro> we usually meet on Saturdays, but it's just us from curitiba. this was a way larger group 22:23:34 <terceiro> let's go ahead 22:23:51 <terceiro> #topic Sponsorship 22:24:01 <terceiro> the agenda says: "Tasks fundraising: Finish brochures & flyers (en, pt_br). Send initial sponsoring request to leads" 22:24:11 <terceiro> DLange: I assume that was you? 22:24:16 <DLange> yes 22:24:41 <terceiro> it would be nice if we had a list of things that are missing 22:25:01 <DLange> afaik only the quote(s) updated and a final proof-read 22:25:02 <terceiro> e.g. IIRC the website is not updated with links to the brochure 22:25:10 <phls> hi, I am here now 22:26:56 <DLange> so what's the status for the brochure and flyer? 22:27:20 <DLange> (i.e. has the tbm quote been replaced?) 22:28:02 <DLange> has anybody else sent in new testimonials beyond the one from Taylor? 22:28:53 <samueloph> I´m confirming the BRL prices on the brochure 22:29:24 <phls> the prices are ok 22:29:46 <phls> I have testemonial just from Taylor 22:30:09 <DLange> and you updates the brochures with it? 22:30:18 <phls> no 22:31:15 <DLange> so we can copy the tasks from the agenda to whereever you would like to track these 22:31:44 <DLange> (fundraising topics can be confidential, so not everything can go into the DC19 salsa issues) 22:32:02 <DLange> but the two mentioned in the agenda item can 22:32:48 <terceiro> #info pending: Finish brochures & flyers (en, pt_br) 22:32:59 <terceiro> #info pending: Send initial sponsoring request to leads 22:33:08 <DLange> I'd like to remind you that we are very late for 2018 and 2019 budget planning already. So fundraising will need to get more priority or you'll run on very low budgets. 22:33:20 <terceiro> #info pending: fix https://debconf19.debconf.org/sponsors/become-a-sponsor/ 22:33:21 <phls> to me, brochures & flyers are finished 22:33:39 <phls> on my opinion 22:33:42 <DLange> the tbm quote needs to be removed and we wanted to replace it with Taylor's 22:33:57 <DLange> so how can the brochure be finished if that's not done? 22:34:18 <phls> DLange, take it easy, I did not undestand that 22:35:18 <samueloph> were are you seeing the tbm values? I can't find them 22:35:25 <terceiro> values? 22:35:30 <tumbleweed> they're currently commented out in the website 22:35:42 <DLange> tbm is a person and has had a quote in the brochure for a few years 22:35:57 <tumbleweed> and the website 22:36:02 <samueloph> ohh, sorry, confused with tbd 22:36:03 <DLange> yep and that's because he left his previous employer 22:36:14 <samueloph> ok, so the website also needs to be updated 22:36:19 <DLange> so we need a new quote and Taylor graciously provided that 22:36:20 <phls> maybe it is easier if you say his name insteand use nicknames 22:36:37 <nattie> phls: that's considerably longer and harder to spell 22:36:40 <DLange> tbm is his name on IRC 22:36:41 <nattie> but it's Martin Michlmayr 22:36:53 <phls> nattie, thanks! 22:36:54 <terceiro> let's try not enter into a metadiscussion 22:36:58 <samueloph> terceiro: can you put these two actions? update website with the brochure and update quotes on the brochure 22:37:06 <samueloph> s/put/add 22:37:11 <terceiro> for whom? 22:37:22 <samueloph> me 22:37:30 <terceiro> #action samueloph update website wrt sponsorship 22:38:04 <terceiro> #action samueloph update brochure (replace Martin Michlmayr's quote with Taylor's) 22:38:16 <adrianacc> didn't know that tbm is a person oO but now, ok 22:39:06 <DLange> he's an awesome person, too, and if you're lucky you'll meet him at DC19 22:39:55 <terceiro> general suggestion: that's the kind of thing that only debconf or debian old timers will "just know", so maybe we want to be more explicit with people who are joining to organize debconf. this also happens sometimes in different topics 22:40:59 <terceiro> moving on 22:42:23 <terceiro> we need a volunteer to drive a sponsorship sprint (via IRC) 22:42:45 <nattie> probably best to have someone experienced in debconf fundraising to do that 22:42:49 <terceiro> I could do it, but maybe it would be better for someone who has actual dc sponsorship experience 22:43:30 <olasd> I'd suggest finding pollo 22:43:42 <olasd> the timezones would match 22:44:15 <DLange> https://wiki.debian.org/DebConf/19/TeamRoles phls seems to be the team lead 22:44:57 <nattie> DLange: I think those got filled in from a local perspective 22:45:27 <nattie> it's worth getting someone experienced to at least have input 22:45:52 <DLange> I'd be there and I guess more people from previous years 22:46:05 <DLange> but DC19 folks need to own the budget. Expenses and income. 22:46:07 * pollo can't follow the meeting, but I don't really want to lead sponsorship 22:46:47 <terceiro> yep, phls is leading the budget as well 22:47:19 <terceiro> but now we are discussing specifically this concentrated effort to also talk to international sponsors 22:47:34 <phls> pollo has helped me with the ledger/budget files 22:48:44 <terceiro> if we can get away with just some to pester people into talking to their contacts, I could do it. But I would need support from someone who actually knows debconf fundraising 22:48:55 <terceiro> *someone* to pester ... 22:49:30 <DLange> let's go with this solution and see whether it works 22:49:37 <terceiro> k 22:49:54 <DLange> get the brochures and flyers ready and call for a sprint please 22:50:04 <terceiro> #action terceiro to organize a sponsorship sprint on IRC after materials are ready 22:50:22 <terceiro> I think we are done with this topic? 22:50:35 <samueloph> agreed 22:50:36 <DLange> ack 22:51:06 <terceiro> #topic wiki.debconf.org going static 22:51:10 <terceiro> #info "Reminder: wiki.debconf.org (hopefully) gets statified end of November, banner-style redirect to wiki.debian.org" 22:51:34 <DLange> this is just a reminder so people reading along here or reading minutes are less surprised when this happens 22:51:58 <DLange> I think most (all?) of DC19 content is on the wiki.debian.org already 22:52:05 <terceiro> pretty much 22:52:21 <DLange> but may be double check if you want to migrate something from the bid pages or so 22:52:22 <terceiro> I can't remember the last time I went to w.debconf.o 22:52:37 <DLange> the content will still be there after statification, just not editable etc. 22:53:08 <terceiro> IMO bid is history, leave it there :) 22:53:58 <DLange> all fine, no need to migrate what doesn't need to be maintained (anymore) 22:53:59 <phls> all content was migrated 22:54:09 <samueloph> well we can migrate anytime anyway, we can do it per demand 22:54:13 <phls> except the BID 22:54:22 <samueloph> (if there is anything that needs to be migrated) 22:54:33 <terceiro> the bid part will need to be bootstrapped for dc20 22:54:46 <terceiro> pretty soon I guess 22:54:56 <DLange> ack 22:55:03 * terceiro checks 22:55:22 <terceiro> I'm living in the past, there are 2 bids already there 22:55:49 <DLange> hopefully we'll see the others be moved and updated there as well 22:56:37 <terceiro> ok, let's move on as we are close to out cap 22:56:54 <terceiro> #topic Any other business 22:57:13 <terceiro> anyone? 22:57:24 <lenharo> i don't 22:57:26 <adrianacc> no 22:57:30 <siqueira> no 22:57:31 <samueloph> nope 22:57:38 <jova2> no 22:57:38 <nattie> let's just explicitly confirm the next meeting date 22:57:43 <terceiro> right 22:57:50 <nattie> cal suggests 3 December 22:58:02 <nattie> if we're keeping it on the first monday of the month for now 22:58:04 <terceiro> does anyone object to sticking to the first monday of every month in general? 22:58:08 <terceiro> yes that 22:58:18 * lenharo agree with December 3 - 22h UTC 22:58:20 <DLange> sounds good 22:58:21 <phls> ah, we are talking about to schedule our next local sprint on Campus Party on february 22:58:29 <samueloph> 1st monday is ok, i will probably won't be available for the next one 22:58:40 <samueloph> i probably wont* 22:58:41 <siqueira> ok for me 22:58:52 <terceiro> #agreed next meeting: Monday December 3rd, 22:00 UTC 22:59:39 <lenharo> phls: I agree with next local sprint on CPBR... 23:00:00 <terceiro> #agreed in general: meetings on 1st Monday of every month until monthly is not frequent enough 23:00:41 <terceiro> last call for any other business 23:01:47 <terceiro> ok, let's end here then 23:01:53 <terceiro> thanks everyone 23:01:57 <terceiro> #endmeeting