17:59:14 #startmeeting Debconf21 Team 17:59:14 Meeting started Mon Oct 19 17:59:14 2020 UTC. The chair is tzafrir. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:59:14 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:12 #topic Roll Call 18:00:25 o/ 18:00:28 i'm here, and apparently i'm someone's missus 18:00:39 george is here 18:01:03 #addchair nattie 18:01:10 hello 18:01:23 \o/ 18:02:30 #chair nattie 18:02:30 Current chairs: nattie tzafrir 18:04:10 #link agenda https://deb.li/dc21meet 18:04:25 #topic Previous Meeting's Items 18:05:02 o/ hi, I'm here as well 18:05:14 April seems to be a good date for the go/no-go decision 18:05:40 And anisa has updated the homepage. 18:06:05 (I also have a pending MR for the brochoure and flyer) 18:06:11 can you do #agreed from local team: April seems to be a good date for the go/no-go decision 18:06:57 #agreed Local team considers April to be a good date for the go/no-go decision 18:07:05 * gwolf is here-ish 18:07:16 #link https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-team/public/data/dc21/-/merge_requests/7 18:07:23 Joy of the Zoom meetings... We depend on a SPOF to enable the RL meeting... 18:07:36 ...And this SPOF's internet connection is down 18:07:46 So, while my work struggles to happen... I'm following the meeting 18:07:51 lol, gwolf, welcome to the working meeting then :-) 18:08:02 yay! 18:08:08 Anything else on those things? 18:08:12 wave a jitsi at them? :) 18:08:35 tumbleweed: I have configured a Jitsi for them. But everybody is used to their favorite tool. So, zoom it is. 18:09:36 #topic Input for Updating Sponsors Info 18:09:52 thank you for the brochure update tzafrir 18:10:28 we'd need a chapter on Corona in Israel and bit of details (~criteria) on the plan to decide by April 18:11:08 Basically we are in a gradual process of exiting the lockdown. That process should last for several months. 18:11:20 (Assuming all goes well) 18:12:08 we need something in the brochure for sponsors or they will not act until we have April 18:12:18 it seems pretty unlikely that the world will be back to large in-person events by summer 2021 18:12:28 we may bbe able to call the decision sooner than april 18:13:16 we can also see right now how volatile the situation can be (northen hemisphere spiking atm, presumably restrictions coming everywhere) 18:13:37 it's called autumn 18:13:43 happens every year 18:13:51 yeah, it was expected 18:14:13 * gwolf disappears... sadly! 18:14:27 again for reaching out to sponsors either we describe what we take as decicions factors and ask for money now 18:14:40 So, what would allow us to hold the conference: 18:14:41 I assume in our fund-raising we should have immediate plans being online again 18:14:45 and communicate that to the sponsors 18:14:48 or we wait until we have decided (and miss 2020 and Q1 2021 budget deadlines) 18:15:18 I think we should plan for in-person, fall-back to online if we have to 18:15:21 so do the other way around? "it's online unless we decide otherwise"? 18:15:25 * reasonable deployment of vaccination in Israel and some other important "source" countries 18:15:40 Without that: any chance? 18:15:43 should we not be raising for both together: i.e. if we are in-person, it's this much. If we go online, we expect to do ... 18:16:13 or is it too late for that because we already commited sponsors when we went online this year? 18:16:37 yes, we said 2021 in Haifa, Israel as our planning assumption 18:16:58 well being able to do in-person is not guaranteed 18:17:01 we should keep that until we are forced to call of an in-person conference again 18:17:11 of course, we never said that, terceiro 18:17:17 sure 18:17:18 and you don't want to be up-front about that with sponsors? 18:17:21 otherwise we just look naieve 18:17:26 it is the planning assumption and what sponsors want to sponsor 18:17:34 some of them 18:17:39 (except for one that only sponsors online) 18:17:40 others will presumably laugh at us 18:18:01 tumbleweed: I want a chapter in the brochure, exactly for that reason 18:18:11 right, that's what I was asking 18:18:12 there is an elephant in the room, let's describe it 18:18:38 +1 18:18:43 but I'd much prefer to stay with trying to do an in-person conference if we can and deciding that we can't if we have to 18:18:44 sorry, I missed that you'd said that just before I asked 18:19:53 I expect people to be sick of online-conferences more next year than they are already 18:20:12 +1 18:20:37 nobody knows what Israel will look like in April 2020, so I'd just wait for that (early) decision point and then we discuss 18:20:37 but I also expect sporsorship budgets to be reduced 18:20:47 just that ... we need to tell to potential sponsors 18:21:07 'cause they can't read our minds and don't read our irc logs :D 18:21:26 we have $60k now for DC21 18:22:12 of course some of that may be pulled if we go online again but very likely we'd have enough left over for an online DC with current sponsors already 18:22:53 so we "only" need to fundraise for the option to start flying to our hosting country again 18:25:32 So practically we need Somebody to write such a section? 18:25:40 ack 18:25:52 I tried to ask Karina but no feedback 18:27:19 #action tzafrir write a section in the brochure about COVID-19 18:28:23 Anything else on this topic? Anything we agreed on? 18:28:43 may be put it in a pad and have nattie, tumbleweed etc. massage it a bit before you consider it final 18:29:15 Sure 18:30:00 WFM 18:30:25 great, thanks 18:32:03 * DLange knocks on the chairs 18:32:24 hey! no knocking on tzafrir and me! 18:32:27 #topic AoB 18:32:38 Anything? 18:33:05 next meeting in 4 weeks? 18:33:16 sounds like a good plan, nattie 18:33:22 And at what time? 18:33:50 Back to 19:00 due to end of DST or keep it 18:00? 18:34:05 both are fine for me 18:34:52 So let's stick with the original 19:00 18:35:03 is anybody not affected by non-DST on Nov 16? 18:35:33 tumbleweed: when does the US change? 18:35:55 (well not asking for the election but end of DST :D) 18:36:04 hah. I have to look these things up 18:36:05 Nov 1 18:36:37 okis, so if we do 19:00 UTC it will be the same local time for everybody 18:37:10 Mexico changes Oct 25 18:37:24 (same as Europe) 18:37:39 #agreed Next meeting is Nov 16th, 19:00 UTC 18:37:43 fwiw brazil has no dst anymore 18:38:01 Are you fine with 19:00? 18:38:03 for brazil this is always an awkward mid-afternoon time either way 18:38:08 yeah 18:39:10 So let's wrap this up 18:39:20 #endmeeting