17:00:35 <tzafrir> #startmeeting Debconf23 Team meeting https://deb.li/dc23meet 17:00:35 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Nov 14 17:00:35 2022 UTC. The chair is tzafrir. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:35 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:51 <tzafrir> #topic Roll Call 17:00:55 <pwaring> o/ 17:00:58 <DLange> \o 17:01:02 <sahilister> o/ 17:01:02 <anupaannjoseph[m]> Hi o/ 17:01:02 <bhe[m]> Hello. 17:01:07 <gwolf> o_/ 17:01:29 <srud> Hi 17:01:33 <EnkelenaH[m]> hi 17:02:29 <abrahamr> o_/ 17:03:12 <tzafrir> #topic Outstanding DC22 items 17:03:35 <tzafrir> #info from Enkelena: Books are final at FlossK, confirmed by Stefano. Final payment was issued from Debian France to FlossK. 17:03:58 <[pirate]praveen> hi 17:04:34 <tzafrir> Anything else on the subject of DC22? 17:05:32 <DLange> No, DC22 is done, also accounting-wise. 17:05:41 <tumbleweed> o/ (sorry, I'm late) 17:05:53 <tzafrir> Right on topic, though! 17:05:55 <DLange> Many thanks to FlossK, EnkelenaH[m] and tumbleweed (who's late, o/ :D) 17:07:05 <tzafrir> #topic DC23 budget 17:07:51 <bhe[m]> So dc23/budget repo is fixed. ./wrapper can now run. 17:08:30 <DLange> We have discussed the budget in the DebConf committee 17:09:02 <DLange> in general it is fine, we have some small adjustment requests that - I think - tumbleweed will share with you 17:09:22 <bhe[m]> As suggested by tumbleweed , I've pinged teams (dc24, video etc) to look at budget to check whether they are ok with allotted amount. 17:09:40 <bhe[m]> DLange: Ok 17:10:21 <bhe[m]> And I am waiting for ACK from those teams. 17:10:44 <DLange> cool, thank you bhe[m] 17:10:56 <tumbleweed> bhe[m]: don't wait forever, this is just your first budget 17:11:08 <tumbleweed> give them a week or two to respond, then file the budget request 17:12:22 <DLange> it is important to stay flexible with the hotel as much as possible 17:13:18 <DLange> i.e. allow us to adjust the count of attendees when we know it vs. us taking too much risk for empty beds while still having to pay for the included venue rent and food 17:13:29 <DLange> (it's all one lump sum) 17:13:54 <bhe[m]> DLange: The hotel want us to go to sign agreement asap. You will hear from venue people more about this, i guess. 17:14:09 <gwolf> bhe[m]: How "final" is the agreement we are to sign? 17:14:30 <gwolf> That is... I think we could be happy to sign a base agreement, but we have no basis upon which to estimate how many people will come 17:14:56 <gwolf> We can commit to having 100 people (grabbing a number out of my hat)... but I don't know if that's enough to them 17:15:04 <DLange> bhe[m]: you need to make sure we can adjust numbers a month before the conference. There is no way to know how many people will attend with enough certainty until the registrations and re-confirmations are in. 17:15:19 <gwolf> And if we go over the number we give them... Do we still get a preferential price? For how long? 17:15:58 <tumbleweed> we did discuss this by email in the early days of reviewing the contract 17:16:36 <bhe[m]> gwolf: Not final, final. But they some confirmation from our side. 17:16:36 <srud> The hotel is giving the venue for free under the assumption that a certain number of rooms will be booked 17:17:10 <gwolf> Right. How much assurance is needed for them to be satisfied? 17:18:11 <srud> They have agreed on some 1000+ room nights (not exact, from what I remember) 17:18:33 <srud> This is across debcamp and debconf 17:18:56 <gwolf> sounds quite reasonable. 17:19:32 <srud> *1000+ is the number I remember.. May be a some what higher number 17:20:19 <tumbleweed> 1000/14 = 71 17:20:42 <tumbleweed> seems like a reasonable baseline 17:20:47 <tumbleweed> hard to imagine a debconf smaller than that 17:21:09 <gwolf> tumbleweed: Right, although having 71 people for the first days of DebCamp would be overshooting ;-) but as a global number, I'm sure we will be over 1000 room nights. 17:21:12 <DLange> ack. And that is what we can commit to. But not 200 or 300 that we have to pay "regardless". 17:21:39 <DLange> Make sure you have good, late, deadlines for "final" numbers and reasonable cancellation policies. 17:22:54 <srud> Cancelation due to covid situation/lockdown etc is unconditional 17:23:03 <DLange> that's good 17:23:21 <DLange> so we "just" need to make sure we have reasonable flexibility on attendee numbers 17:23:44 <srud> I have sent the copy of draft agreement to tumbleweed for review.. 17:23:59 <srud> Should I forward to DCC? 17:24:30 <gwolf> srud: I'd appreciate :-] 17:24:30 <DLange> sure 17:24:52 <DLange> due to the venue being so - relatively - expensive there is no large bursary budget and individual flights will be expensive compared to Kosovo 17:25:11 <DLange> so we should aim at enabling people to book early 17:25:18 <srud> Sure, will send across today 17:25:25 <DLange> this early budget is a very good step in that direction 17:27:22 <tzafrir> Move on to website? 17:27:39 <tzafrir> #topic Website 17:28:33 <sahilister> I don't think so any update from website team 17:28:46 <tumbleweed> anything you need there? 17:29:07 <sahilister> Not at the moment 17:29:46 <tzafrir> THere's something about an issue with the icon font on the schedule page. Still a problem? 17:30:32 <srud> I think that is fixed.. Atleast that was from from fixed in the mini debconf site 17:30:41 <tzafrir> #topic Sponsors team 17:30:45 <tumbleweed> I'm expecting similar problems in the registration system, with the way it has been done this year 17:30:57 <tumbleweed> so I hope you've tested registration on wafertest 17:31:59 <srud> tumbleweed: not sure about that.. Will update you on that after I check.. 17:32:40 <tumbleweed> (in particular the date pickers) 17:34:27 <[pirate]praveen> we are still contacting sponsors 17:35:51 * gwolf disappears momentarily (sorry, am at work!) 17:36:25 <tzafrir> #topic Visa team 17:37:00 <EnkelenaH[m]> I think we have one, as far as I remember. Is their work postponed to a closer time? 17:37:39 <srud> We are now in the enquiry stage 17:37:48 <tumbleweed> The early work is to document processes on the website, and form contacts with the relevant goverment departments 17:38:30 <tumbleweed> get the email alias updated to the new team 17:38:53 <srud> tumbleweed: ack 17:39:49 <DLange> did you address the Kosovo visa issue with the Indian foreign ministry already? 17:40:16 <srud> BTW EnkelenaH[m] there is a good news.. Kosovo is listed among countries for offline visa applications 17:40:31 <srud> DLange: ^ 17:40:40 <EnkelenaH[m]> oh awesome \o/ Maybe when you have time share a link here 17:40:47 <EnkelenaH[m]> so I get the correct source 17:41:14 <srud> EnkelenaH[m]: sure.. will do once I dig it up 17:41:21 <EnkelenaH[m]> thanks a lot! 17:43:47 <tzafrir> Anything else on visas? 17:44:19 <tzafrir> #topic Next meeting 17:44:44 <DLange> 28th November, 12th December acc. to the meeting pad 17:45:10 <tumbleweed> let's talk DC24 17:45:25 <tzafrir> #topc AoB 17:45:30 <tumbleweed> tzafrir: when do you guys want to decide if you're in or out? 17:45:46 <tumbleweed> because if we want to open bids, now's the time 17:46:18 <tzafrir> We meet with the HaifaU people later this week. 17:47:47 <tzafrir> I mostly think we're in. After that meeting I can give a definite answer. 17:48:39 <anupaannjoseph[m]> Hi. We had MiniDebConf Palakkad in last two days. Was a great event with more than 100 attendees and 24 events across two days. 17:48:55 <tumbleweed> tzafrir: ack 17:49:04 <tumbleweed> anupaannjoseph[m]: \o/ 17:49:09 * anupaannjoseph[m] uploaded an image: (223KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/RLbyKxqnblJxieQAsofZGZxe/DSCF1585_20221114223747.jpg > 17:49:13 <tumbleweed> we're sad there wasn't video :( 17:49:22 <anupaannjoseph[m]> Our group photo. 17:49:51 <anupaannjoseph[m]> Thanks to all the volunteers and debconf-team members who helped to pull this out. 17:50:18 <anupaannjoseph[m]> tumbleweed: we recorded few, but need some quality check before releasing it. 17:50:44 <anupaannjoseph[m]> Need your help, will ping you later. :) 17:51:40 <tumbleweed> anupaannjoseph[m]: ack. The video team is there to help 17:51:59 <tzafrir> So, I guess we're done? 17:52:23 <anupaannjoseph[m]> tumbleweed: Thanks! 17:52:39 <tzafrir> #endmeeting