Started logging meeting in #debconf-video, times are UTC.<br />
[18:03:14] * h01ger looks for an agenda <br />
[18:03:21] * h01ger = Holger Levsen<br />
[18:03:23] &lt;dererk&gt; Hi there :)<br />
[18:03:29] &lt;xerakko&gt; hi<br />
[18:03:36] * des here<br />
[18:03:46] &lt;h01ger&gt; [edit] Meeting agenda July, 24th, 18 UTC <br />
[18:03:46] &lt;h01ger&gt;  remaining fosdem and debconf7 videos <br />
[18:03:46] &lt;h01ger&gt;  debconf8 planning <br />
[18:03:46] &lt;h01ger&gt;  setup.dia <br />
[18:03:46] &lt;h01ger&gt;  test streams pre-debconf - streaming servers <br />
[18:03:48] &lt;h01ger&gt;  required hardware + donated/loaned hardware <br />
[18:03:50] &lt;h01ger&gt;  software, fai config <br />
[18:03:52] &lt;h01ger&gt;  volunteer scheduling in penta <br />
[18:03:56] &lt;h01ger&gt;  debian day <br />
[18:03:58] &lt;h01ger&gt;  any other business <br />
[18:04:00] &lt;h01ger&gt;  next meeting <br />
[18:04:04] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 0. agenda at http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Videoteam/Meetings & say hi please<br />
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[18:04:34] * edrz == present<br />
[18:04:34] &lt;bwh&gt; hi please<br />
[18:04:36] &lt;xerakko&gt; hi hi<br />
[18:04:59] &lt;h01ger&gt; #idea if you add stuff to the agenda, please tell me too<br />
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[18:05:11] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 1. the classic: debconf7 & fosdem videos<br />
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[18:05:13] * edrz == Eric Dantan Rzewnicki<br />
[18:05:29] * h01ger had not time to announce the fosdem videos yet. surprise.<br />
[18:05:59] &lt;bwh&gt; 19:01 < bwh> https://penta.debconf.org/penta/video/transcodings shows all Theora encoding done except for lintian BoF  which I need to check<br />
[18:06:07] &lt;h01ger&gt; cool<br />
[18:06:08] &lt;bwh&gt; still uploading though<br />
[18:06:21] &lt;edrz&gt; to where?<br />
[18:06:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; so you're one it and they will be ready before debconf8 starts :)<br />
[18:06:29] &lt;bwh&gt; apu.debconf.org<br />
[18:06:32] &lt;bwh&gt; yes<br />
[18:06:36] &lt;h01ger&gt; cool<br />
[18:06:37] &lt;bwh&gt; might even have some DVD images<br />
[18:06:42] &lt;h01ger&gt; are you making dv...<br />
[18:06:45] &lt;h01ger&gt; great!<br />
[18:06:46] &lt;edrz&gt; apu ok. does apu have all of everything?<br />
[18:07:03] &lt;bwh&gt; it has everything for download, but not archival versions<br />
[18:07:11] &lt;h01ger&gt; #action about debconf7 videos < bwh> https://penta.debconf.org/penta/video/transcodings shows all Theora encoding done except for lintian BoF  which I need to check<br />
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[18:07:18] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, apu is our archive master<br />
[18:07:23] &lt;edrz&gt; got it<br />
[18:07:23] &lt;h01ger&gt; (and our test relay host)<br />
[18:07:32] &lt;bwh&gt; archival versions are kept offline<br />
[18:07:48] &lt;h01ger&gt; #action debconf7 videos will be released before deb_conf_8, there might even be dvd images<br />
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[18:07:55] &lt;h01ger&gt; next point?<br />
[18:07:57] &lt;des&gt; great :-)<br />
[18:08:18] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 2. debconf9 planning, welcome to the year 2009<br />
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[18:08:20] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: you should announce those too once they finish uploading ;-p<br />
[18:08:21] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic ups<br />
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[18:08:27] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 2. debconf8 planning<br />
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[18:08:44] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 2.1 debconf8 planning - setup.dia <br />
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[18:09:34] &lt;h01ger&gt; basically done, we have a nice overview. i have some ideas how to improve the dia picture, but not now...<br />
[18:09:36] &lt;h01ger&gt; next?<br />
[18:09:40] &lt;des&gt; the only thing I have to say regarding this is that the 'green' links there will probably be switched anyway<br />
[18:09:44] &lt;edrz&gt; where is it again?<br />
[18:09:51] &lt;h01ger&gt; (i think i put this on the agenda to be sure to have it done)<br />
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[18:09:55] &lt;h01ger&gt; http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Videoteam<br />
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[18:10:00] &lt;des&gt; http://wiki.debconf.org/upload/a/a5/Video-setup-dc8.png<br />
[18:10:33] &lt;h01ger&gt; #link svn://svn.debian.org/svn/debconf-video/package/trunk/doc/video-setup-dc8.dia<br />
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[18:10:36] &lt;edrz&gt; but, the source .dia?<br />
[18:10:38] &lt;edrz&gt; ah<br />
[18:10:40] &lt;bwh&gt; des: Why will they be switched?<br />
[18:10:52] &lt;xerakko&gt; uauuu,... suprising!<br />
[18:10:56] &lt;h01ger&gt; we'll get our own vlan in the main switch<br />
[18:11:15] &lt;edrz&gt; lack of pci slots for firewire cards + extra NICs?<br />
[18:11:17] &lt;des&gt; bwh: because finding machines powerful for PiP and with more PCI slots is too hard<br />
[18:11:53] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 2.2 debconf8 planning - test streams pre-debconf - streaming servers<br />
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[18:11:54] &lt;bwh&gt; They don't come with two ports on-board?<br />
[18:11:54] &lt;des&gt; and they'll be switched through some 3com baseline 24 port switches so we'll have a giga link anyway (it can even have it's own vlan)<br />
[18:12:03] &lt;h01ger&gt; should we talk about hw first?<br />
[18:12:08] &lt;h01ger&gt; or about the test streams now?<br />
[18:12:23] &lt;bwh&gt; (I thought 2 ports was normal for all but the very low end...)<br />
[18:12:46] &lt;edrz&gt; hardware fits more with the .dia.<br />
[18:12:58] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 2.2 debconf8 planning - required hardware + donated/loaned hardware<br />
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[18:13:00] &lt;edrz&gt; well, both fit<br />
[18:13:25] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: thanks<br />
[18:13:35] * h01ger hasnt really checked, but doesnt remember any blockers. basically we are prepared, herman send the cable to wouter (Yoe on irc)<br />
[18:13:42] &lt;h01ger&gt; (hw wise)<br />
[18:13:49] * h01ger checks<br />
[18:13:57] &lt;des&gt; bwh: maybe yes, but we'll have 1 fw card there too<br />
[18:14:02] &lt;p2-mate&gt; s/send/sent/<br />
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[18:14:12] &lt;h01ger&gt; http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf8/Videoteam/Hardware<br />
[18:14:33] &lt;h01ger&gt; "Overview required hardware" is quite green<br />
[18:14:37] &lt;edrz&gt; umm ... does herman have yoe and LarstiQ confused?<br />
[18:14:46] &lt;des&gt; I'm only concerned about getting all the machines giga, I'll give updates in saturday<br />
[18:14:47] &lt;bwh&gt; des: I meant Ethernet ports<br />
[18:14:51] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, dont think so. why do you think so?<br />
[18:15:03] &lt;des&gt; bwh: oh, no, I haven't seen that<br />
[18:15:07] &lt;bwh&gt; des: well you only need 100M for the green links<br />
[18:15:07] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, truely great if they all have giga!!<br />
[18:15:16] &lt;edrz&gt; 06:34 < herman_opera> LarstiQ: You should receive a large envelope early next week.<br />
[18:15:19] &lt;edrz&gt; 06:34 < herman_opera> LarstiQ: You should receive a large envelope early next week.<br />
[18:15:22] &lt;edrz&gt; grr.<br />
[18:15:27] &lt;p2-mate&gt; hopefully not<br />
[18:15:33] &lt;edrz&gt; sorry. middle mouse button is weird on this laptop.<br />
[18:15:37] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, i mailed him the other wouter postal address, so i think its fine<br />
[18:15:42] &lt;edrz&gt; ok<br />
[18:16:01] &lt;des&gt; 100M is enough? I thought every place where DV was streamed over needed giga<br />
[18:16:34] &lt;des&gt; and that would be 2 dv streams<br />
[18:16:37] &lt;bwh&gt; DV is only 29M<br />
[18:16:43] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, we sometimes need 50 or 75mbit, and giga is _definitly_ better<br />
[18:16:46] &lt;des&gt; Mb or MB?<br />
[18:16:46] &lt;h01ger&gt; for copying files<br />
[18:16:49] &lt;bwh&gt; Mb<br />
[18:17:00] &lt;des&gt; oh, I see.<br />
[18:17:07] &lt;h01ger&gt; for streams, 25mbit per stream is needed. but we also want file access and there faster _is_ better<br />
[18:17:15] &lt;des&gt; just don't mention this to the localteam or they'll probably kill me<br />
[18:17:23] * h01ger thinks the red box on http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf8/Videoteam/Hardware is wrong.<br />
[18:17:29] &lt;h01ger&gt; next point?<br />
[18:17:48] &lt;h01ger&gt; Q_, did the ordered hardware arrive at your place?<br />
[18:17:57] &lt;des&gt; Ah, one more thing<br />
[18:18:15] &lt;des&gt; I got the other 2 fw cards and tested them (just in case)<br />
[18:18:15] &lt;des&gt; and they work nice<br />
[18:18:22] &lt;edrz&gt; great<br />
[18:18:41] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: let's leave that red until I have the machines properly assigned and with a base install<br />
[18:18:43] &lt;des&gt; :)<br />
[18:18:46] &lt;dererk&gt; h01ger, there are the machines for that role, but they haven't been labeled though<br />
[18:18:48] &lt;des&gt; next, for me<br />
[18:18:56] &lt;edrz&gt; via, 2x6 + 1x4 port?<br />
[18:19:02] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 2.3 debconf8 planning - test streams pre-debconf - streaming servers<br />
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[18:19:15] &lt;des&gt; edrz: yes, exactly the same cars<br />
[18:19:15] &lt;des&gt; cards<br />
[18:19:30] &lt;edrz&gt; ok. so, who is ext-master.video.debconf.org and is the record in place?<br />
[18:19:43] &lt;bwh&gt; looks like quimby<br />
[18:20:01] &lt;h01ger&gt; according to the setup.dia, quimby<br />
[18:20:01] &lt;edrz&gt; and what are the other video.debconf.org servers that will be in round robin?<br />
[18:20:09] &lt;bwh&gt; and no it isn't<br />
[18:20:15] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, same machines<br />
[18:20:18] &lt;h01ger&gt; some<br />
[18:20:30] * h01ger would rather like to talk about the stream as it is atm<br />
[18:20:34] &lt;h01ger&gt; did you read my mail?<br />
[18:20:35] &lt;bwh&gt; same procedure as last year? same procedure as every year<br />
[18:20:53] * edrz has read no mail yet today, sorry ... :(<br />
[18:21:06] &lt;edrz&gt; i have one private mail from h01ger <br />
[18:21:12] &lt;h01ger&gt; (we'll use 5-6 streaming servers this year. not more. mostly controlled by ganneff/weasel. so one point of contact.)<br />
[18:21:17] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, not that one<br />
[18:21:26] &lt;h01ger&gt; that one:<br />
[18:21:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; > Forgot to ask, the dvswitch 0.7.1 etch packages you provided are using<br />
[18:21:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; > libavcodec0d from etch. Jonas' provided packages give us a backported<br />
[18:21:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; > libavcodec51. Would there be any benefit to having dvswitch packages for<br />
[18:21:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; > etch built with that?<br />
[18:21:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; I wonder if this is the reason why I couldnt get your stream display here.<br />
[18:21:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; It worked with the dc7 packages back in EDI..<br />
[18:21:30] &lt;h01ger&gt; regards,<br />
[18:21:34] &lt;h01ger&gt;         Holger (no time to research this properly, but I thought I'd at least share <br />
[18:21:36] &lt;h01ger&gt; my thoughts <br />
[18:21:59] &lt;edrz&gt; hrmm ...<br />
[18:22:28] &lt;edrz&gt; bwh: what procedure do you mean?<br />
[18:22:50] * h01ger would like to try this. cause atm we have 3 people who tested the stream, and one for whom it completly failed. and it worked with my etch setup last year..<br />
[18:22:57] &lt;h01ger&gt; so i dont believe its a client issue<br />
[18:23:01] &lt;bwh&gt; mailing out a request for people to run streaming "mirrors", though apparently h01ger has a different idea<br />
[18:23:04] &lt;bwh&gt; edrz: ^<br />
[18:23:18] &lt;edrz&gt; bwh: no, we don't want to, plus don't need to do that.<br />
[18:23:51] &lt;edrz&gt; 30 relays, 5 of which actually work and have people attending to them is worse than having 5 dedicated relays.<br />
[18:23:53] &lt;des&gt; I'd like to be ready to quickly do it, in case it's needed though<br />
[18:24:03] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, what?<br />
[18:24:16] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, is your test stream still up?<br />
[18:24:17] &lt;bwh&gt; h01ger: it's the Theora encoding you need to look at, not the DV encoding<br />
[18:24:19] &lt;des&gt; asking for more mirrors and set them up<br />
[18:24:25] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, can we/you send it to apu?<br />
[18:24:30] &lt;bwh&gt; edrz: yes, agreed<br />
[18:24:37] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, no, we dont want that<br />
[18:24:45] &lt;des&gt; since there are ~200 persons that couldn't come (comparing to last year)<br />
[18:24:58] &lt;edrz&gt; h01ger: not at the moment. after my "pizza + kurosawa" last night the dvsink-command had died. Plus there was a crazy storm going on so, I shut everything down.<br />
[18:25:03] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, no, we still dont want that. it will work with 5-6 streaming servers<br />
[18:25:14] &lt;edrz&gt; and I woke up just before I had to head out for a bit and got back just before the meeting.<br />
[18:25:22] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, can you set it up again? alternativly we could jsut stream files from apu<br />
[18:25:25] &lt;edrz&gt; i can get everything back up and running after the meeting.<br />
[18:25:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; cool<br />
[18:25:32] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: assuming ~150 clients? <br />
[18:25:40] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, yes<br />
[18:25:45] &lt;bwh&gt; I think so, yes<br />
[18:25:52] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, please read the log of the last two meetings :-P<br />
[18:25:57] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: then, fine we don't need to worry about it<br />
[18:26:02] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: I did :(<br />
[18:26:09] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, we already worried about this<br />
[18:26:13] &lt;h01ger&gt; :)<br />
[18:26:16] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, strange..<br />
[18:26:18] &lt;edrz&gt; des: 5-6 well managed relays on solid connections can easily handle thousands of clients watching.<br />
[18:26:22] &lt;des&gt; then fine, just ignore me<br />
[18:26:32] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, which version of ffmpeg2theora are you using? <br />
[18:26:33] &lt;edrz&gt; des: no, it's ok. good to bring it up.<br />
[18:26:34] &lt;des&gt; edrz: *perfect*<br />
[18:26:42] &lt;edrz&gt; h01ger: backported 0.21<br />
[18:27:07] &lt;edrz&gt; lenny/sid version. fixes the largefile issue and other bugs, (but, of course could have new bugs.<br />
[18:27:11] &lt;edrz&gt; )<br />
[18:27:17] &lt;edrz&gt; plus, it could have been the oggfwd that died<br />
[18:27:21] &lt;edrz&gt; or some other thing.<br />
[18:27:26] &lt;edrz&gt; i need to test more.<br />
[18:27:40] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, can you put all versions you use on a wiki page, together with pointers where to get them? or mail me that info, i'd like to start collecting them and put in a repo<br />
[18:27:50] &lt;h01ger&gt; +please<br />
[18:28:10] &lt;edrz&gt; h01ger: but, yes, regarding streaming files from apu, i want to have ezstream running there feeding previous recordings + serving as fallback mount point.<br />
[18:28:19] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, and this has definitly time til sunday :)<br />
[18:28:31] &lt;h01ger&gt; i wont have much time til then<br />
[18:29:00] &lt;edrz&gt; h01ger: they are in the software list already.<br />
[18:29:23] &lt;h01ger&gt; #link http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf8/Videoteam/Software<br />
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[18:29:25] &lt;h01ger&gt; ah cool<br />
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[18:29:26] &lt;edrz&gt; http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf8/Videoteam/Software<br />
[18:29:35] &lt;edrz&gt; + i'll double check I didn't forget something.<br />
[18:29:38] &lt;edrz&gt; after meeting.<br />
[18:29:59] &lt;h01ger&gt; next point?<br />
[18:30:27] &lt;edrz&gt; sure, plus, sorry I haven't gotten it all sorted, yet.<br />
[18:31:02] * h01ger would like to announce the test streams next wednesday or thursday even (aka rather "late"), because then we will get feedback, which will draw ressources. and i would like to spend time on other stuff (eg fai) before spending time on feedback...<br />
[18:31:26] &lt;edrz&gt; h01ger: when do you leave home?<br />
[18:31:28] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, that we have a test setup already now up, is rockin' freakin' c00l!<br />
[18:31:32] &lt;h01ger&gt; edrz, sunday morning<br />
[18:31:36] &lt;edrz&gt; to madrid?<br />
[18:31:40] &lt;edrz&gt; how long in madrid?<br />
[18:31:45] &lt;h01ger&gt; yes. and then wednesday mornign to .ar<br />
[18:31:48] &lt;edrz&gt; ok<br />
[18:31:56] &lt;bwh&gt; edrz: If you can figure out how to make dvswitch crash, that would be really helpful, too<br />
[18:32:13] &lt;edrz&gt; bwh: yes, i know ... since that first time, though, it's been rock solid.<br />
[18:32:27] &lt;edrz&gt; which is both good and bad.<br />
[18:32:31] &lt;bwh&gt; daven: That goes for you as well... I need to fix it before it happens in production<br />
[18:32:37] &lt;edrz&gt; agreed.<br />
[18:32:47] &lt;h01ger&gt; dererk, des: the dvswitch machines in MDQ, what graphics adapter do they have?<br />
[18:32:49] &lt;edrz&gt; should i try to run a debug build?<br />
[18:32:55] &lt;edrz&gt; are we on a new point now?<br />
[18:33:07] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: I have no freaking idea<br />
[18:33:16] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: ask me saturday<br />
[18:33:16] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, can you run "lspci"?<br />
[18:33:26] * h01ger will try to think about that :)<br />
[18:33:32] &lt;des&gt; no, the one for the video team are not plugged yet<br />
[18:33:45] &lt;bwh&gt; edrz: could do that - I think "debian/rules DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug,nostrip" will do that<br />
[18:33:51] * h01ger experienced some dvswitch isses which were graphics adapter related...<br />
[18:33:55] &lt;edrz&gt; bwh: ok. will try.<br />
[18:34:12] &lt;bwh&gt; h01ger: Those were bugs that I fixed, weren't they?<br />
[18:34:17] &lt;edrz&gt; should we change the topic?<br />
[18:34:26] &lt;edrz&gt; since we've changed the topic ...<br />
[18:34:57] &lt;edrz&gt; des: you go to mdq saturday?<br />
[18:35:10] &lt;h01ger&gt; bwh, there might always be new ones, or nvidia cards, or...<br />
[18:35:19] &lt;h01ger&gt; bwh, there might always be new ones, or nvidia cards, or...<br />
[18:35:21] &lt;h01ger&gt; aeh<br />
[18:35:31] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 2.4 debconf8 planning - software, fai config<br />
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[18:35:34] &lt;des&gt; edrz: friday actually, but late, so I'll go to the hotel on saturday<br />
[18:35:49] &lt;edrz&gt; ok<br />
[18:35:49] &lt;des&gt; edrz: along with marga and maxy, but I'll stay there<br />
[18:35:53] * h01ger hasnt progressed further on the fai setup. on my agenda for the flight to madrid :)<br />
[18:36:02] &lt;des&gt; they have to work, so they come back<br />
[18:36:19] &lt;edrz&gt; just to be clear, i tested the fai install only once. my test machines are not under fai management currently.<br />
[18:36:48] * h01ger nods<br />
[18:36:50] &lt;edrz&gt; des: it's not as though you will not be working. :)<br />
[18:37:00] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: Oh, I know one of the machines, that'll run dvswitch!, Mine! It's intel based, so shouldn't be a problem<br />
[18:37:14] * h01ger worked several hours with fai again today, yesterday and the day before. though a different project :)<br />
[18:37:16] &lt;LarstiQ&gt; yeah, Yoe is the other wouter<br />
[18:37:21] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, hehe. and the other? :)<br />
[18:37:33] &lt;h01ger&gt; next point?<br />
[18:37:54] &lt;des&gt; that, I don't but, should be dererk's machine IIRC, so he might know<br />
[18:38:05] * h01ger nods. cool<br />
[18:38:14] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 2.5 debconf8 planning - volunteer scheduling in penta<br />
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[18:38:23] &lt;des&gt; intel based being 82G33/G31, which doesn't work in etch now that I racall<br />
[18:38:36] * h01ger looks at poor^wsuper-des<br />
[18:38:40] &lt;des&gt; I think it does in etch+half<br />
[18:38:47] &lt;h01ger&gt; interesting<br />
[18:39:05] &lt;des&gt; sorry, I totally drop this atm<br />
[18:39:06] * h01ger has xorg 7.3 backports for etch. so that will be fine, one way or the other<br />
[18:39:19] &lt;des&gt; I'll do it in mdq, I'll have more free time there surely<br />
[18:39:42] &lt;p2-mate&gt; when not drinking beer then ? :)<br />
[18:39:42] &lt;des&gt; But hopefully before debcamp<br />
[18:39:47] &lt;h01ger&gt; des, ui. please pick it up agin. its SUPER important, and other people can do hardware or whatever things, but not many people can code penta<br />
[18:39:55] &lt;h01ger&gt; s/agin/again/<br />
[18:40:06] &lt;des&gt; h01ger: I know, I'll get to it, soon<br />
[18:40:14] * h01ger nods<br />
[18:40:21] &lt;des&gt; Can't promise today since I still have to arrange my tomorrow trip<br />
[18:40:30] &lt;h01ger&gt; sure. take your time.<br />
[18:40:32] &lt;des&gt; But I'll start any time now<br />
[18:40:55] &lt;h01ger&gt; just remember: this is really important for us: fully automated workflow: automatic encoding, upload (of previews) to apu, rating them in penta and set cut marks, cutting them, final encodings, final uploads - so that we have the dc8 videos ready by september (this year :)<br />
[18:41:14] &lt;p2-mate&gt; 2009 ? :)<br />
[18:41:27] &lt;h01ger&gt; and people should submit themselves for video volunteer jobs during debcamp<br />
[18:41:29] &lt;xerakko&gt; xD<br />
[18:41:34] &lt;des&gt; yes<br />
[18:41:39] &lt;h01ger&gt; good :)<br />
[18:41:41] * des kicks p2-mate<br />
[18:41:46] * h01ger too<br />
[18:42:03] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 2.6 debconf8 planning - debian day<br />
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[18:42:20] &lt;h01ger&gt; whats the status on this? /me hasnt had time to really read mondays -team log, sorry :-/<br />
[18:42:21] &lt;des&gt; still nowhere here<br />
[18:42:42] &lt;h01ger&gt; hui<br />
[18:42:43] &lt;des&gt; The nice place we have an offer for can't do it either<br />
[18:42:51] &lt;h01ger&gt; outsch<br />
[18:42:52] &lt;des&gt; So we are going for the plan b place<br />
[18:43:00] &lt;p2-mate&gt; open air ? :)<br />
[18:43:06] &lt;des&gt; but don't have more details than that<br />
[18:43:32] &lt;des&gt; p2-mate: no, another place, a bit more away and in a not-so-nice place (although very touristic)<br />
[18:43:39] &lt;des&gt; La Boca, fyi<br />
[18:43:56] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 2.7 debconf8 planning - videoteam talk and paper<br />
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[18:44:18] &lt;h01ger&gt; we missed the deadline, twice, but i think we could still submit... <br />
[18:44:35] &lt;h01ger&gt; i could submit, but not review what i submit :/<br />
[18:44:54] &lt;p2-mate&gt; wasn't the talk accepted ?<br />
[18:45:00] &lt;h01ger&gt; p2-mate, yes<br />
[18:45:11] &lt;h01ger&gt; we just want a paper in the preceedings<br />
[18:45:13] &lt;p2-mate&gt; oh<br />
[18:45:15] &lt;des&gt; the papper deadline<br />
[18:45:17] &lt;h01ger&gt; but noone has time to work on the paper<br />
[18:45:50] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 3. any other business<br />
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[18:46:06] * dererk back<br />
[18:46:30] &lt;dererk&gt; I'm not sure, but I *think* its an onboard NV card <br />
[18:46:35] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 4. next meeting<br />
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[18:46:39] &lt;h01ger&gt; dererk, can you check?<br />
[18:47:04] &lt;dererk&gt; h01ger, I'm afraid not, it's on MDQ atm<br />
[18:47:10] &lt;h01ger&gt; in case it is, can someone bring a proper (intel, avi) card? ;) or, bwh, do you think nvidia is fine?<br />
[18:47:15] &lt;des&gt; this time is nice for me<br />
[18:47:18] * des can check, on saturday ;-P<br />
[18:47:20] &lt;bwh&gt; h01ger: I don't see why not<br />
[18:47:23] &lt;h01ger&gt; ok, cool<br />
[18:47:38] &lt;h01ger&gt; next wednesday this time i'll be on a plane..<br />
[18:47:39] &lt;bwh&gt; Someone must have tested with an nvidia card? Anyone?<br />
[18:47:46] &lt;dererk&gt; h01ger, :)<br />
[18:47:48] * h01ger hasnt<br />
[18:47:50] &lt;des&gt; I don't think intel sells pci video cards<br />
[18:47:59] &lt;p2-mate&gt; not yet<br />
[18:47:59] &lt;bwh&gt; They don't<br />
[18:47:59] * dererk nods<br />
[18:48:10] &lt;h01ger&gt; next tuesday? next thursday?<br />
[18:48:18] &lt;h01ger&gt; without me? 0:)<br />
[18:48:23] &lt;dererk&gt; haha<br />
[18:48:29] &lt;xerakko&gt; xD<br />
[18:48:35] &lt;dererk&gt; tuesday then :D :P<br />
[18:48:58] * des is ok either way<br />
[18:48:58] &lt;h01ger&gt; tsss<br />
[18:49:05] * dererk too<br />
[18:49:12] &lt;h01ger&gt; same time?<br />
[18:49:15] &lt;des&gt; let's make h01ger work ;-P<br />
[18:49:21] &lt;dererk&gt; oh yeah<br />
[18:49:21] &lt;dererk&gt; :D<br />
[18:49:28] &lt;xerakko&gt; if ok to me<br />
[18:49:29] * h01ger estas mui flojo<br />
[18:49:32] &lt;h01ger&gt; -s<br />
[18:49:36] &lt;dererk&gt; jaja<br />
[18:49:40] &lt;h01ger&gt; si, si!<br />
[18:49:44] &lt;p2-mate&gt; ei<br />
[18:50:03] &lt;h01ger&gt; #agreed next meeting, tuesday, 29th, july, 18 UTC<br />
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[18:50:12] &lt;h01ger&gt; #topic 10min free time<br />
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[18:50:15] &lt;h01ger&gt; whoohoo<br />
[18:50:19] &lt;xerakko&gt; xD<br />
[18:50:20] &lt;p2-mate&gt; beer !<br />
[18:50:27] &lt;dererk&gt; lol<br />
[18:50:51] * h01ger will finish his customers lovely computer now and then maybe maybe press submit on the paper. or just have beer.<br />
[18:50:58] &lt;h01ger&gt; cu & thank you!!<br />
[18:51:02] * h01ger waves<br />
[18:51:05] &lt;bwh&gt; bye<br />
[18:51:10] &lt;p2-mate&gt; moimoi<br />
[18:51:10] * dererk waves back h01ger and *<br />
[18:51:19] &lt;h01ger&gt; #endmeeting<br />
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