17:59:54 <pollo> #startmeeting 17:59:54 <MeetBot> Meeting started Thu Jul 15 17:59:54 2021 UTC. The chair is pollo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:59:54 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:59:57 <paddatrapper> \o 17:59:58 <pollo> #topic Roll Call 18:00:11 <pollo> please say hello if you're here for the meeting! 18:00:24 <sahilister> hello o/ 18:00:30 <paddatrapper> hi o/ 18:00:42 <terceiro> hi 18:00:52 <pollo> proposed agenda: https://deb.li/oNCD 18:00:57 <rojin[m]> Hi o/ 18:00:57 <tobi> hi 18:02:55 <tumbleweed> o/ 18:03:36 <pollo> #tropic 18:03:37 <pollo> :) 18:03:48 <pollo> #topic Review system 18:04:06 <pollo> I don't think wouter_ is here, but I don't think anything changed on that side either 18:04:48 <pollo> #topic Q&A webapp 18:05:07 <pollo> I don't think there's been changes on that one either, I haven't had time to do what I wanted 18:05:10 <tumbleweed> haven't touched it in a while 18:05:23 <pollo> #topic Ansible & migration to Bullseye 18:05:36 <pollo> I've battled etherpad & npm yesterday without success 18:06:00 <tumbleweed> I can help debug things there, but I can't really do much testing of the whole video stack, on a slow cellular connection 18:06:23 <tumbleweed> I'd like to see some end-to-end testing of the video stack before we commit to bullseye 18:06:34 <pollo> I plan to do that before our next meeting 18:06:43 <tumbleweed> great! 18:06:59 <pollo> #action pollo to do end-to-end testing of the video stack on bullseye 18:07:08 <pollo> #topic New Video Archive Mirror 18:07:18 <pollo> no news, I'll re-re-re poke jeb 18:07:26 <pollo> #topic DC21 schedule 18:09:05 <pollo> terceiro: ^^ 18:09:16 <terceiro> right 18:09:36 <terceiro> so I was starting to look into putting a schedule together 18:09:50 <terceiro> I asked here but only pollo said somethign about 18:10:10 <terceiro> are we ok with repeating last year structure? 18:10:10 <terceiro> i.e. long days 18:10:17 <terceiro> instead of e.g. shorter days with 2 parallel tracks 18:10:33 <terceiro> I got some feedback on -team as well wrt to longer days allowing to cover more timezones 18:10:44 <terceiro> TBH my main concern is load on the video team 18:10:48 <tumbleweed> you think it'll stay one track? or end up with a parallel ad-hoc track? 18:10:53 <paddatrapper> We should be able to do it again. Need volunteers though 18:11:07 <pollo> I think longer days means less volunteers overall 18:11:14 <terceiro> let me pull up the number of accepted sessions 18:11:14 <pollo> 2 parallel tracks is more work 18:11:45 <terceiro> 64 accepted so far 18:12:03 <terceiro> divide by 8 days, that would give us 6 talks/day 18:12:16 <terceiro> or we could make less, longer days 18:12:26 <pollo> 8 days seems like _a lot_ 18:12:39 <terceiro> yeah, specially fully online, it's exausting 18:12:40 <tumbleweed> 8*8 = 64, so 8 per day 18:12:48 <terceiro> ah yes sorry 18:13:00 <pollo> the ad-hoc track question is a good one though 18:13:13 <pollo> 'cause if there's one, we'll need 2x the infra anyway 18:13:18 <terceiro> yes 18:13:27 <terceiro> and you decided to stream/record that as well last year :) 18:14:06 <pollo> so if we do 5 days, 2 tracks, this leaves 2 ad-hoc slots per day 18:15:47 <pollo> sorry, maths. 5 days, 2 tracks, 8 talk slots per track per days 18:16:07 <pollo> total of 80 slots, 16 blank slots for ad-hoc 18:16:11 <terceiro> I still need to figure out timezones 18:16:56 <terceiro> but that looks promising 18:17:38 <pollo> anyone against something like that? 18:17:38 <terceiro> I may propose different starting hours depending on the day, would that be a problem? 18:17:53 <pollo> as long as we can find core members, I don't think it matters 18:17:57 <terceiro> ack 18:18:15 <tumbleweed> probably nice to have some mornings off, yeah ;) 18:18:31 <terceiro> if we agree on 5 days, we need to pick which 5 days. I would bring this up on the next #-team meeting, do you have a preference? 18:18:49 <pollo> #info we'll likely do 5 days, 2 tracks, 8 talk slots per track per day. There are 64 accepted talks at the moment, leaving 16 empty slots for ad-hoc talks 18:19:03 * pollo doesn't mind 18:19:09 <tumbleweed> neither 18:19:11 <paddatrapper> Probably having a weekend in there helps for flexibility 18:19:19 <paddatrapper> personally I don't have a preference 18:19:29 <terceiro> we could do Wed-Sun 18:19:33 <pollo> probably weds-sun would be better than sat-weds 18:19:35 <terceiro> or Sat-Wed 18:19:54 <terceiro> ack 18:20:11 <valhalla> no day trip (a.k.a. recovering the review backlog) day? 18:20:19 <urbec> wouldn't be 6 talks per day with 7 days less stressful? 18:20:43 <urbec> ah or what vallhalla said 18:20:57 <terceiro> we could throw in a free day too 18:22:17 <pollo> anything else to add? 18:22:48 <terceiro> I don't think so 18:22:59 <pollo> #topic Any Other Business 18:23:16 <tobi> yep. thats me... 18:24:02 <tobi> In short, plans for minidebconf regensburgs thickens. Anticipated dates are Saturday, October 2nd and Sunday, October 3rd. 18:24:19 <highvoltage> terceiro: single track longer schedule imho is a lot easier to co-ordinate 18:25:01 <tobi> (of course this is all conditionally on how the pandemic develops, but currentyl hopes are high that it can be done at least for some solid hygenic concept.) 18:25:15 <paddatrapper> tobi: awesome 18:25:15 <pollo> tobi: do you have any plans wrt video hardware? 18:25:24 <pollo> I don't think we've replaced our audio kit 18:25:28 <olasd> we haven't 18:25:29 <tobi> thats why I'm here :) 18:25:59 <tobi> pollo: is there a Thoman list? 18:26:13 <tobi> maybe I can help with the purchasing. 18:26:50 <pollo> I think olasd had one, but I can also look in my IRC logs 18:27:10 <pollo> as much as I'd like to, I won't be joining y'all though :) 18:27:24 <pollo> not having videoteam in-person sprints sucks :( 18:27:39 <pollo> #info plans for minidebconf regensburgs thickens. Anticipated dates are Saturday, October 2nd and Sunday, October 3rd. 18:27:48 <pollo> #link https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/de/2021/MiniDebConfRegensburg 18:28:06 <terceiro> the last 18 months suck 18:28:19 <tobi> pollo: yes, I'm missing my Debian family. 18:29:02 <pollo> tobi: I think the ML to coordinate the video cameras being shipped to Germany (if possible) would be the best way to keep track of this task 18:29:17 <pollo> I'll have a look for the audio kit list later 18:29:20 <pollo> anything else? 18:29:28 <tobi> pollo: ok! 18:29:48 <pollo> #topic Next Meeting 18:29:53 <pollo> Next week same time? 18:30:27 <paddatrapper> Works for me 18:30:49 <pollo> #agreed Next Meeting Thursday July 22nd from 18:00 to 19:00 UTC 18:30:51 <pollo> #endmeeting