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14:58:26 <tumbleweed> #topic Roll Call
14:58:34 <tumbleweed> #link https://deb.li/ipVeE
14:58:50 <tumbleweed> who is here for the meeting?
15:00:04 <hacksk[m]1> Hi
15:00:28 <tumbleweed> \o/
15:00:49 <tumbleweed> that's probably enough of us to have a useful (if short) meeting
15:01:10 * nattie waves from around the corner of the table
15:01:14 <tumbleweed> #topic DebConf23 - Venue
15:01:35 <tumbleweed> I assume no news specifically on the venue
15:01:49 <tumbleweed> nothing we're waiting for, that I can remember
15:01:51 <tumbleweed> let's move on
15:01:55 <tumbleweed> #topic DebConf23 - Equipment
15:02:47 <tumbleweed> we have some invoices: https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-team/public/data/dc23/-/merge_requests/39/diffs
15:02:50 <hacksk[m]1> I think I shared the audio quote
15:03:21 <tumbleweed> so to summarise:
15:03:28 <tumbleweed> we can't get all the machines we want in one size
15:03:45 <tumbleweed> so there are 8 i7 desktops quoted, and 1 i5
15:03:52 <tumbleweed> IIRC we may get some i9s?
15:04:24 <hacksk[m]1> tumbleweed: If i7 10th is not available
15:04:30 <tumbleweed> right
15:04:57 <wouter> here too
15:05:02 <hacksk[m]1> I5 is for network team
15:05:11 <wouter> (was just looking at Tammy's screen, she's working on animations)
15:05:15 <tumbleweed> ah, right
15:05:22 <tumbleweed> hacksk[m]1: did we find tripods?
15:05:29 <hacksk[m]1> Yes
15:05:38 <tumbleweed> separate supplier, I assume
15:05:56 * hacksk[m]1 posted a file: (343KiB) < https://matrix.debian.social/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/mqneXHQwGkjqVpFotcxfzIAW/Estimate_153_21-08-2023.pdf >
15:06:02 <hacksk[m]1> tumbleweed: Yes
15:06:11 <tumbleweed> OK, thanks!
15:06:33 <tumbleweed> 48 means 6 tripods * 8 days
15:06:36 <tumbleweed> I assume
15:07:04 <tumbleweed> do they have nice heavy video tripods?
15:07:05 <hacksk[m]1> Yes
15:07:07 <wouter> that would sound reasonable :)
15:07:33 <hacksk[m]1> They asked me to visit and finalize the models
15:07:45 <tumbleweed> great!
15:07:47 <hacksk[m]1> I asked. For the one mentioned in you request
15:08:09 <tumbleweed> thanks
15:08:43 <hacksk[m]1> But they may don't have the exact model
15:08:53 <hacksk[m]1> But compatable
15:08:56 <tumbleweed> separately, you're buying some RG6 cable, F-type connectors, and BNC-F-type couplers
15:09:01 <paddatrapper> o/ but in another meeting, so only half paying attention here
15:09:09 <nattie> Hi Squishie!
15:09:17 <hacksk[m]1> tumbleweed: Yes
15:09:24 <tumbleweed> and presumably the video team can steal a box of CAT5e/6 cable from the network team
15:09:28 <paddatrapper> nattie: hi!
15:09:57 <hacksk[m]1> tumbleweed: Yes
15:10:10 <tumbleweed> paddatrapper: please read through the invoices and double-check that we've got what we need
15:10:22 <tumbleweed> (outside the meeting if necessary)
15:10:40 <hacksk[m]1> Do we need to buy any battery or something
15:10:41 <paddatrapper> The only thing I thought was odd was the goose neck mics for ambient
15:10:52 <paddatrapper> The rest looked reasonable
15:10:59 <hacksk[m]1> For the equipments we already have
15:11:29 <hacksk[m]1> paddatrapper: Do we need to look for other models
15:12:02 <tumbleweed> hacksk[m]1: probably. Mics usually need AA or PP3 batteries
15:12:42 <tumbleweed> we usually just buy a big box of cheap batteries
15:12:51 <hacksk[m]1> Ok that we can ask the audio vendor
15:12:54 <tumbleweed> rechargeables need lots of chargers etc...
15:15:31 <paddatrapper> hacksk: maybe ask for drum overhead mics. That should be a well understood use case that will match what we need to use them for
15:17:43 <tumbleweed> shall we continue?
15:18:34 <paddatrapper> Yup
15:18:48 <tumbleweed> #topic DebConf 23 - Networking
15:18:56 <tumbleweed> I don't know if we have anything more to talk about, here?
15:19:09 <tumbleweed> I see an invoice for the leased line! (100mbps)
15:19:24 <tumbleweed> any news on the fibre between venues?
15:19:31 <hacksk[m]1> Thats the fallback
15:19:45 <hacksk[m]1> And fiber between the venue
15:19:50 <akashsanthosh[m]1> The invoice includes the fibre between the venues
15:20:24 <hacksk[m]1> We will have seperate 1gbps fiber for main internet
15:20:28 <tumbleweed> ah, OK
15:20:55 <tumbleweed> two uplinks, lovely!
15:21:39 <tumbleweed> #topic DebConf 23 - Shipping
15:21:53 <tumbleweed> olasd has been AFK so far for the meeting
15:21:57 <tumbleweed> so I assume no news here
15:22:21 <tumbleweed> #topic DebConf 23 - Loop
15:22:23 <tumbleweed> wouter: loops?
15:23:27 <wouter> Tammy's worked on a storyboard
15:23:55 <tumbleweed> great
15:24:17 <wouter> She's wanting to explain what we're working on, but hang on a sec, things aren't there yet
15:24:20 <wouter> (just a minute or so)
15:24:31 <tumbleweed> and (in other loops) highvoltage has put out a call for content for loopy content
15:25:57 <wouter> so
15:26:13 <wouter> There's a video here with some splashes effects that she wants to use:
15:26:15 <wouter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEWZH9PwNe0
15:26:34 <wouter> (just the very first few seconds of that video)
15:26:50 <wouter> then we go to http://lounge.grep.be/~wouter/elephant_animation.pdf
15:27:13 <wouter> so in the first slide you'll see the splashes as in that video link
15:27:34 <tumbleweed> cute
15:27:37 <wouter> then it goes to the second one, where we see just the trunk, the eye, and the water, with a few red logo elements
15:28:03 <wouter> then we move on to the next page, we see the elephant come up, the swirl, and more splashes and the letters
15:28:14 <wouter> then the splashes turn into the blue element at the bottom, where we see the 23
15:28:33 <wouter> you can see the progression in the three slides on that second page
15:28:44 <wouter> there's a few alternate versions in that progression
15:29:27 <wouter> the fourth slide is for talks -- we're thinking of adding an animation for opening credits, too
15:29:51 <wouter> and then at the end we see the sponsor logos with a splash animation too
15:30:06 <wouter> and that eventually morphes back into the splashes for the beginning
15:30:19 <wouter> any thoughts are welcome :)
15:32:06 <tumbleweed> looks nice
15:32:19 <wouter> (this is obviously a rough draft, and still needs to be put into synfig)
15:32:39 <tumbleweed> you may need more space in that title slide for the titles
15:33:07 <highvoltage> oh hello everyone
15:33:14 <wouter> yeah, we might resize things on that page
15:33:22 <highvoltage> eep am I just in time for my part?
15:33:30 <wouter> highvoltage: I think so :)
15:33:39 <wouter> highvoltage: I just explained what Tammy's been working on
15:33:45 <highvoltage> I'd like to get the loop up so if someone can sort me out an ingest link, that would be great
15:34:06 <tumbleweed> highvoltage: I'll look after the meeting
15:34:22 <highvoltage> also, what kind of hardware can/will I have at DC23 for loopy?
15:34:31 <highvoltage> (or should I run something from an external machine?)
15:34:57 <tumbleweed> highvoltage: see https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-team/public/data/dc23/-/merge_requests/39/diffs#diff-content-090b620cc730ef013e3a8cd4a328a5c162b837ac
15:34:57 <highvoltage> I went with the nicer layout/options so far, but it is a bit heavy to run on a VM
15:35:48 <wouter> highvoltage: FWIW, the animated logo will be set up with Synfig, which outputs PNG files that you can then ffmpeg into a video
15:35:56 <highvoltage> scanning that diff, the only relevant part I basically got was "computers"? :)
15:36:07 <tumbleweed> err that specific file
15:36:34 <tumbleweed> it'll tell you ThinkCentre m920t
15:36:49 <highvoltage> tumbleweed: ah great
15:37:08 <highvoltage> ok that's it from me for now
15:37:40 <wouter> one more question from my side:
15:37:51 <highvoltage> ah yes, call for loopy proposals, I can send that out, too
15:37:58 <wouter> We are considering including a (shorter) version of the logo animation for the opening credits
15:38:19 <tumbleweed> wouter: you mean at the start of encoded videos?
15:38:29 <wouter> Shouldn't be too hard to amend SReview to make that possible (essentially s/inkscape/synfig/g and a few updates to encoder settings)
15:38:32 <wouter> tumbleweed: yes, exactly
15:38:39 <tumbleweed> sounds fun
15:38:42 <wouter> so the question is, is that a good idea or should I not?
15:38:53 <tumbleweed> I assume it'll be a bit of extra CPU work
15:39:01 <wouter> yeah, obviously
15:39:13 <wouter> but not that terribly much, synfig is quite fast
15:39:56 <tumbleweed> not sure how much scratch storage we'll have
15:40:01 <tumbleweed> those computers only have 2TB HDDs
15:40:06 <wouter> :-D
15:40:12 <tumbleweed> maybe we can steal a few and create a 2x2 RAID array in one of them
15:40:17 <wouter> don't worry about that
15:40:30 <wouter> we will generate 5 seconds of PNG files, transcode that to a .mkv, and throw them away again
15:40:43 <wouter> at that point the difference with the inkscape stuff is 0
15:40:45 <tumbleweed> right
15:41:24 <wouter> there will be a bit more CPU (inkscape generates one PNG file that is copied for 5 seconds, synfig will generate one per frame), but in storage the difference is negligable
15:41:36 <wouter> the intermediate files for all the cutting and transcoding requires a lot more than that :)
15:42:38 <tumbleweed> ack
15:44:22 <wouter> that's it for me then
15:44:27 <wouter> shall we move on?
15:44:46 <tumbleweed> yep
15:45:01 <tumbleweed> #topic Cambridge UK mini-DebConf
15:45:10 <tumbleweed> paddatrapper: I see you pinged the team
15:46:48 <olasd> hi, sorry, I'm buried in storage doing my inventory
15:47:01 <wouter> we lost a paddatrapper
15:47:05 <tumbleweed> olasd: what fun!
15:48:12 <olasd> the cbg team seems eager to have us
15:48:24 <nattie> with your very fetching videoteam hats
15:48:50 <tumbleweed> anything else to discuss there?
15:50:33 <olasd> I'll make sure the ATA carnet is applicable for both Kochi and CBG
15:50:50 <olasd> I don't think there's more to say
15:50:53 <tumbleweed> I assume it's OK if some of the gear doesn't go to Kochi?
15:50:57 <tumbleweed> (and vice-versa)
15:51:02 <wouter> as long as it's not the cameras
15:51:16 <tumbleweed> I mean, kochi doesn't need the audio stuff, cambridge doesn't need 6 cameras
15:51:16 <highvoltage> hopefully all the gear that goes there goes back
15:54:51 <tumbleweed> #topic any other business?
15:55:04 <wouter> FWIW, I booked my flights last week
15:55:12 <wouter> so I'll definitely be there (not for debcamp though, only for debconf)
15:55:33 <tumbleweed> hopefully we can get sreview somewhat setup before you get there
15:55:49 <wouter> if I can have remote access, I can work on that during the week, no prob
15:55:58 <tumbleweed> I'm sure we can do something
15:56:07 <wouter> that's what I thought :)
15:56:11 <tumbleweed> #topic Next Meeting
15:56:24 <tumbleweed> same time, next week!
15:56:34 <wouter> yes please
15:56:55 * tumbleweed will be on his way to an airport but should be there
15:57:14 <tumbleweed> #endmeeting