18:00:04 <dondelelcaro> #startmeeting 18:00:04 <MeetBot> Meeting started Thu Feb 26 18:00:04 2015 UTC. The chair is dondelelcaro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:04 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:07 <keithp> good morning! 18:00:10 <dondelelcaro> #topic Who is here? 18:00:12 <dondelelcaro> Don Armstrong 18:00:32 <dondelelcaro> (I'm on a bus, so I'm going to be really laggy, and will have to disapear in about 25 minutes until I walk to where I'm going...) 18:00:49 * keithp is here 18:01:32 <dondelelcaro> bdale, vorlon, aba cjwatson: ping 18:01:32 <cjwatson> dondelelcaro: Please tell me what you want and I'll reply when I'm around. 18:01:39 <dondelelcaro> heh 18:03:19 <vorlon> hi 18:03:42 <dondelelcaro> cool 18:04:29 <dondelelcaro> #topic Next Meeting? 18:04:41 <vorlon> #agreed we should have a next meeting 18:07:12 <vorlon> next topic? ;) 18:07:31 <dondelelcaro> 2015/03/26 17:00 UTCcurrently it's scheduled for 2015/03/26 17:00 UTC 18:07:35 <ScottK> Don't you need to argue about the color of the meeting first? 18:07:47 <dondelelcaro> sorry; I'm on a really laggy connection 18:07:58 <dondelelcaro> topic #769972 New member selection process 18:08:01 <dondelelcaro> #topic #769972 New member selection process 18:08:29 <dondelelcaro> does anyone object to the top candidates now? I believe the next step is just to vote on them 18:08:40 <dondelelcaro> should we be voting on them in a single block? or individually? 18:09:37 <keithp> dondelelcaro: individually seems like it makes some sense? 18:09:46 <dondelelcaro> ok 18:09:54 <vorlon> if we all agree on the top two candidates, and we're filling two slots, what reason is there for further voting? 18:10:09 <vorlon> isn't the next step to just present our recommendations to the DPL? 18:10:13 <dondelelcaro> vorlon: we have to vote publicly 18:10:32 <vorlon> before or after we consult the DPL? 18:10:35 <vorlon> which AFAIK we haven't done yet 18:10:52 <dondelelcaro> I think we can consult the DPL at any point; but we have to publicly vote to recommend them to the DPL 18:10:57 <vorlon> oh, ok 18:11:03 <vorlon> then that's fine with me 18:11:06 <keithp> vorlon: iirc, we vote to recommend; that's how we know what names to offer 18:11:19 <dondelelcaro> but we can just include the top condidates and make it a simple yes/FD vote 18:11:27 <dondelelcaro> ISTR that's what we did previously 18:11:28 <keithp> agreed 18:11:29 <vorlon> clearly we should rotate people out of the TC more often so that I remember the procedure ;) 18:11:45 <dondelelcaro> heh 18:12:08 <keithp> vorlon: I think we'll have that opportunity 18:12:20 <keithp> vorlon: although, I suspect *you* may not get a lot more practice... 18:12:54 * Maulkin nods - basically what dondelelcaro/keithp said. 18:13:00 * Maulkin re-lurks 18:13:03 <dondelelcaro> ok; I guess we can contact leader@, and ask first, then do a public vote to recommend 18:13:15 <dondelelcaro> #action dondelelcaro or bdale to contact leader@ to verify top candidates 18:13:27 <dondelelcaro> #action dondelelcaro to start vote to recommend candidates after leader@ weigh in 18:13:41 <dondelelcaro> #topic #636783 constitution: various bugs 18:14:04 <dondelelcaro> last meeting, we decided that we'd drop these if no one stepped forward to champion them; does anyone want to champion them? 18:14:24 <vorlon> not I 18:14:38 <vorlon> it would be great if Diziet would continue to drive these IMHO 18:14:42 <aba> sorry for being late 18:14:47 <dondelelcaro> aba: no worries 18:14:55 <dondelelcaro> I think we can just let these happen through the normal GR process? 18:14:57 <aba> please give me 2 minutes to read backlog 18:15:03 <aba> dondelelcaro: I would step forward for those 18:15:03 <dondelelcaro> sure 18:15:09 <dondelelcaro> aba: OK 18:15:26 <vorlon> dondelelcaro: yes, that's what I mean wrt Diziet driving :) 18:15:40 <dondelelcaro> right 18:15:45 <keithp> aba: if you want to propose the patch to the ctte, we can vote on whether to propose a GR, right? 18:15:54 <aba> keithp: right. 18:16:06 <dondelelcaro> ok; that's good enough for me 18:16:14 <aba> but if Diziet wants to drive it outside of the ctte that's ok for me either 18:16:38 <dondelelcaro> #agreed aba to champion #636783 perhaps in consultation with Diziet 18:16:47 <dondelelcaro> #topic #741573 menu systems and mime-support 18:17:05 * keithp hangs head in shame having done nothing on this topic since new $dayjob 18:17:14 <dondelelcaro> heh 18:17:28 <dondelelcaro> but that's still where we're planning on going with this one, right? 18:17:31 <keithp> yes 18:17:43 <dondelelcaro> #action keithp continue discussing with -policy 18:17:57 <dondelelcaro> #topic #771070 Coordinate plan and requirements for cross toolchain packages in Debian 18:19:02 <dondelelcaro> I've done a tiny bit of coordination here, but it looks like the main parties have actually done the hard work themselves 18:19:16 <dondelelcaro> hopefully in a bit there will be an announcement regarding their agreement and plan going forward 18:19:20 <keithp> awesome 18:19:34 <keithp> bdale and I spent a bunch of time at fosdem talking to the interested parties 18:19:46 <dondelelcaro> I'd like to keep this bug open, but I don't think the CTTE needs to do anything but maybe make a statement congratulating the parties on working together 18:20:02 <keithp> once resolved, we can close it 18:20:20 <dondelelcaro> (though we should keep an eye on it, and try to help keep it moving forward as people) 18:20:23 <dondelelcaro> right 18:20:27 <dondelelcaro> #agreed keep this bug open for the time being 18:20:36 <dondelelcaro> #topic #750135 Maintainer of aptitude package 18:20:54 <dondelelcaro> from my notes, this one was going to be something that aba was working on 18:21:10 <dondelelcaro> aba: is that still the plan? 18:21:34 <aba> I'm not unhappy if someone else takes over. Otherwise I hope to find time during my upcoming vacations 18:21:38 <aba> (i.e. dayjob) 18:21:57 <dondelelcaro> okie dokie; I'm not on fire to take over this one myself, because it seems hrad. 18:22:02 <dondelelcaro> s/hrad/hard/ 18:22:29 <dondelelcaro> #action aba to hope to find time to deal with this unless someone else wants to take over 18:22:36 <dondelelcaro> #topic Additional Business 18:23:09 <dondelelcaro> anything else? 18:25:03 <aba> looks like not 18:25:11 <dondelelcaro> okie dokie; hope to see you all next time. 18:25:15 <dondelelcaro> #endmeeting