17:58:49 <spwhitton> #startmeeting 17:58:49 <MeetBot> Meeting started Tue Jul 12 17:58:49 2022 UTC. The chair is spwhitton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:58:49 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:58:51 <spwhitton> #topic Roll Call 17:58:56 <Emperor> Matthew Vernon 17:58:59 <spwhitton> #info Apologies received from Niko Tyni and Christoph Berg. 17:59:01 <spwhitton> Sean Whitton 17:59:15 <ehashman> Elana Hashman 17:59:26 <smcv> Simon McVittie 18:00:01 <helmut> Helmut Grohne 18:00:58 <spwhitton> gwolf: around? 18:02:40 <gwolf> spwhitton: will connect a bit 18:02:50 <gwolf> But have to leave soon 18:02:53 <spwhitton> cool 18:03:00 <spwhitton> #topic Review of previous meeting AIs 18:03:05 <spwhitton> Emperor: any news on yours? 18:03:20 <spwhitton> apologies, didn't leave gwolf time to type his name) 18:03:30 <ehashman> I caught up on everything other than my AI ^_^; 18:03:46 <spwhitton> ehashman: do you think you can do it between now and the next meeting? 18:03:47 <gwolf> Gunnar Wolf :-) 18:03:56 <ehashman> spwhitton: yeah I hope so given DC coming up 18:03:56 <gwolf> Sorry, I was typing from the phone. I'm here now. 18:04:05 <spwhitton> ehashman: okay then 18:04:07 <ehashman> was hoping to have it done before then 18:04:13 <spwhitton> #action ehashman to commit private-comms slides+gobby to git procedures/ 18:04:34 <Emperor> spwhitton: I updated the bug metadata as requested last time on #966468 ; there has been no change to src:util-linux since our last meeting 18:04:46 <spwhitton> well, any DD is free to NMU 18:04:52 <spwhitton> do we want to do anything else other than keep an eye? 18:04:59 <spwhitton> still some months before freeze. and it wouldn't be a transition. 18:05:31 <Emperor> Not sure at what point it would be worth asking the maintainer their intentions? 18:05:46 <spwhitton> it seems they have none :) 18:05:47 <helmut> given that u-l is essential, it'll be part of the toolchain freeze 18:05:52 <spwhitton> helmut: good point 18:06:52 <gwolf> I do think we have to reach out to the maintainer 18:07:06 <gwolf> of course they are not overly happy of being overriden... 18:07:25 <helmut> does anyone know whether ah will be at dc22? 18:07:29 <spwhitton> Emperor: would you like to write a quick note? 18:08:02 <helmut> if yes, I volunteer to talk to ah 18:08:19 <gwolf> let me check 18:08:21 <Emperor> Yeah, I can do. I could offer a salsa MR and/or NMU, maybe, if they'd rather? [but maybe we should see if helmut can see them at DC first?] 18:08:37 <spwhitton> if we don't know he's there, we could just do both at once, helmut and Emperor 18:08:57 <helmut> I think we have enough time to go sequentially 18:09:29 <gwolf> I think he won't be there 18:09:46 <helmut> that makes things a lot simpler. 18:10:03 <gwolf> helmut: but we can meet during DebConf and write to him? 18:10:13 <Emperor> If you like :) 18:10:24 <helmut> I'm not sure about the benefit of that 18:10:31 <spwhitton> who would like to take charge of it? Emperor is most on top of the bug, so I'd prefer him to write the note if possible 18:10:41 <spwhitton> cos, I don't think it needs to be complex. just asking. 18:10:42 <helmut> debconf is usually is quite packed with stuff to do for me 18:10:48 * Emperor is content to do so 18:11:12 <gwolf> ok, so I am happy to leave it to Emperor 18:11:14 <spwhitton> gwolf: are you okay with leaving this to Emperor at this stage? we may need more people getting involved later 18:11:17 <spwhitton> ok 18:11:20 <helmut> I prefer Emperor doing it (assuming that ah will not be there) 18:11:40 <spwhitton> #action Emperor to continue monitoring #966468 18:11:57 <gwolf> helmut: I entered the admin pages of dc22, and found no Andreas-es attending 18:11:58 <spwhitton> #action Emperor to ask maintainer of util-linux about his plans 18:12:14 <spwhitton> sweet 18:12:15 <gwolf> but I am not too familiar with it, so I could have missed something 18:12:22 <spwhitton> #topic DebConf22 presentation 18:12:33 <spwhitton> I wrote in the agenda the two subitems here 18:12:34 <helmut> I've confirmed attendance and booked travel 18:12:48 <spwhitton> gwolf too right? 18:12:59 <gwolf> Yes, I'm leaving on Thursday 18:13:02 <ehashman> I will still not be attending (except virtually, but there's very little overlap between CEST and PST...) 18:13:13 <spwhitton> right, ehashman and I have a rough timezone for this 18:13:22 <helmut> I'll give another talk, so my laptop will likely work with the video equipment. 18:13:43 <spwhitton> so, helmut and gwolf, who of you is least busy with other dc stuff? 18:14:06 <gwolf> My laptop has a _very_ hacky video out. I'd very much prefer if we used helmut's 18:14:32 <spwhitton> right we'll do that. but we need someone else to do slides and be the person to do the initial talk through 18:14:39 <gwolf> but yes, I'll look at the material we have, and will coordinate on-site with helmut 18:14:40 <spwhitton> s/someone else/someone/ 18:14:56 <gwolf> right. Well, I guess we can split responsabilities there, it's both of us on stage 18:15:03 <ehashman> looks like meet the TC is at 6am my time, oof 18:15:08 <spwhitton> ehashman: yup 18:15:10 <gwolf> Will any of you participate remotely? 18:15:19 <spwhitton> I will try to but as ehashman says, it will be 6am. 18:15:20 <ehashman> if it could be pushed to the 8am slot I could confirm participation 18:15:28 <ehashman> that's the final talk slot at 17:00 local time 18:15:42 <spwhitton> we could certainly ask for that 18:15:51 <helmut> I'm quite busy with non-debian stuff until debconf. I cannot reasonably take tasks until then. We'll somehow manage to coordinate the presentation. 18:16:07 * Emperor isn't going to be able to be there even virtually 18:16:09 <spwhitton> #action spwhitton to ask about moving TC talk to last slot in day 18:16:20 <spwhitton> #action helmut to handle slides with his laptop 18:16:20 <gwolf> we can ask the content team to shuffle the schedule for us 18:16:29 <spwhitton> #action helmut and gwolf to co-ordinate the actual presentation 18:16:31 <gwolf> makes sense to be able to include ehashman and spwhitton on a decent timeslot 18:16:33 <spwhitton> final thing is updating hte slides 18:16:36 <gwolf> I'll ask content@ right way 18:16:38 <spwhitton> this doesn't have to be gwolf and helmut 18:16:46 <spwhitton> gwolf: cool please CC d-c 18:16:58 <gwolf> d-c ?? 18:17:03 <spwhitton> debian-ctte sorry 18:17:12 <gwolf> right 18:17:12 <spwhitton> I can do the slides as a fallback, though I have my own presentation to prepare 18:17:17 <gwolf> mutt 18:17:18 <spwhitton> (doing a prerecorded one) 18:17:21 <gwolf> grrr, sorry :-) 18:17:25 <spwhitton> haha 18:17:28 <ehashman> thanks gwolf 18:17:41 <spwhitton> indeed thank you 18:17:59 <spwhitton> any volunteers for slides? it's an easy one, just merge in ntyni's bits mail into prepandemic slides 18:18:04 <spwhitton> they're latex 18:18:30 <gwolf> I am quite booked with my own slides (am part of four talks, one of them solo)... 18:18:42 <gwolf> ...so I'd prefer not to, but can do it if ultimately needed 18:18:55 <spwhitton> Emperor: sounds like you're busy 18:18:56 <spwhitton> ? 18:19:03 * Emperor has driven LaTeX/beamer before, but is kindof snowed under with everything ATM so would rather not have another thing needs doing inthe near future 18:19:05 <Emperor> sorry 18:19:18 <spwhitton> okay then looks like I'm doing the slides :) 18:19:22 <spwhitton> #action spwhitton to prepare the slides 18:19:31 <Emperor> #praise spwhitton 18:19:31 <spwhitton> okay then I think that is everything. 18:19:43 <gwolf> Emperor: heh :-) 18:19:48 <gwolf> All hail spwhitton! 18:20:29 <spwhitton> anyone think there's anything else needed? what we agreed was something lowkey, truly mostly a chance for people to, as it says, meet the TC 18:20:38 <spwhitton> not like previous two years 18:23:15 <spwhitton> well okay then! 18:23:20 <spwhitton> #topic Any Other Business 18:23:23 <spwhitton> anyone have anything? 18:23:37 * gwolf keeps mouth shut 18:23:41 <ehashman> not from me 18:23:43 <gwolf> And fingers. 18:23:45 <smcv> nothing from me 18:24:09 <Emperor> nope 18:24:11 <spwhitton> coolio 18:24:53 <gwolf> Mail to content@debconf sent. 18:25:09 <spwhitton> gwolf: ah great 18:25:12 <spwhitton> #endmeeting