13:00:30 #startmeeting 13:00:30 Meeting started Sat Jul 31 13:00:30 2021 UTC. The chair is nattie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:00:30 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:00:41 #link https://pad.riseup.net/p/localgroups-meetings agenda 13:00:50 #topic roll call 13:00:58 (i'll just sit here until someone says hi) 13:01:04 hello 13:01:30 anyone here other than Dr Allan and me? 13:02:26 maybe they're fashionably late (but more likely outside somewhere and not watching IRC) 13:02:45 let's give them a few more minutes and if they've not shown up by five past, speed through the agenda? 13:02:51 sure 13:03:13 because i feel like i gave ample reminders 13:05:20 wellllllllllll 13:05:28 maybe give them a *little* longer? 13:07:43 (the academic quarter?) 13:08:05 How's life in England now that the government declared you're pandemic-free? 13:08:52 i wouldn't know, i don't live there anymore! 13:09:06 Ah yes 13:09:08 Sorry :) 13:09:15 heh, it's fine 13:09:25 That's what happens with not seeing people face-to-face in so long 13:09:47 i've clearly acquired a strong flemish accent in the interim 13:09:50 one kinds of loses track of people's lives 13:10:04 haha, I look forward to hearing the new accent 13:10:47 alas, it's only imaginary, but i'll see what i can develop! 13:11:20 Maybe we need to go through the agenda, and see if that causes people to pop up just after the relevant item 13:11:40 ooh perhaps, but let's just give it another 4 minutes for the full academic quarter 13:12:03 (i'm stalling like a champion here) 13:15:15 I think it's quarter past 13:15:31 yeah 13:15:35 OK, let's carry on 13:15:43 #topic last meeting's action items 13:15:49 #info there were no action items at the last meeting 13:16:00 #topic news from local groups 13:16:02 anyone? 13:16:19 * moray drops a pin 13:16:40 how about our Brazilian friends, who said they were coming today? 13:18:28 i've heard of efforts for some in-person get-togethers on 21 August for quasi-cheese-and-wine 13:20:35 * nattie would like for there to actually be some people around to discuss the timing of the BoF 13:20:47 yeah 13:20:59 guess we'll stay on this item for a few more minutes? 13:21:26 if we want real pre-BoF discussion we may need to schedule it with explicit requests to people to join a special meeting 13:21:35 yeah 13:21:46 shall i just move to the BoF discussion item anyway? 13:21:53 maybe it'll attract people like as a beacon 13:21:57 try it 13:22:06 #topic timing of the Localgroups BoF 13:23:03 anybody, anything? 13:24:12 If you want to spell out a longer question then someone might reply asynchronously (perhaps) 13:26:31 yeah 13:26:48 for one, i'm not sure i can make the evening of the 28th, and would prefer the BoF be moved 13:26:59 but i understand that there are 4 of us listed as authors 13:27:59 one of the earlier evenings of the week would be better for me too 13:28:00 well, there are two of us now - do you have any thoughts on this? 13:28:02 yeah 13:28:14 (sorry, typed that just as you were responding) 13:29:00 valhalla, phls: how about you? would an evening earlier in the week work for you? 13:29:22 (maybe people will turn up at half past...) 13:30:47 I think you will need to watch for an asynchronous reply 13:31:03 but already you could start investigating if we know it's bad for two of us 13:31:28 *nods* 13:31:59 #info We intend to explore a different schedule slot for the localgroups BoF, as two of the authors would have difficulty attending on the proposed date 13:32:02 voilà 13:32:05 yes 13:32:21 #topic scheduling the next meeting 13:32:45 #info the next meeting will effectively be the localgroups BoF, which is yet to be fully scheduled (see info item above) 13:32:58 #topic AOB 13:33:17 What can we do to encourage attendance? 13:33:37 we've been dealing with low meeting attendance for several iterations running already 13:33:43 Well, I think we can say from experimental data that this timing isn't getting lots of people 13:33:56 What we don't know is whether a different time would 13:34:20 i think the inconvenient thing here is that it cuts right into the afternoon of people in central(ish) Europe 13:34:33 and it's nearly equally awkward for everyone else 13:34:49 other times definitely exclude some groups, though 13:35:00 Yeah, in principle it's a time that's possible, but apparently there are more interesting things for people to do at this timeslot 13:35:10 and we don't really want to send the message of "we don't care about your timezone" 13:35:20 I know 13:35:45 but it's equally a bit silly to go on hold meetings in a time when no one is actually turning up 13:35:46 then again, the timezones we've tried to accommodate haven't exactly been represented either 13:35:49 yeah 13:36:15 so, uh, further discussion required? 13:36:41 seems like it 13:37:11 #info we need to discuss (outside of a meeting) how to encourage more meeting attendance, as figures have been very low lately 13:37:18 right, shall we call it? 13:37:52 #endmeeting