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#debian-reproducible Meeting
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Meeting started by h01ger at 17:01:24 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-reproducible/2015/debian-reproducible.2015-06-16-17.01.log.html
.



Meeting summary
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* discuss todays agenda / everybody please say hi  (h01ger, 17:01:57)
  * someone still needs to file a bug against gtk-doc so that our patch
    doesnt get lost  (h01ger, 17:07:06)
  * LINK: this one
    https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/reproducible/gtk-doc.git/commit/?h=merged/reproducible_builds&id=fe1c60f53d04d2da3496acb5410c97d574f5c894
    (mapreri, 17:07:30)
  * AGREED: [19:08] < AGWA> I think the position should be to replace
    any timestamp > the debian/changelog date with the debian/changelog
    date  (h01ger, 17:09:42)
  * AGREED: [19:08] < mapreri> my position now: timestamps are not evil
    if they are meaningful:  build time is not meaningful but "last
    change"  (changelog?) time it is. so, clamp is good  (h01ger,
    17:09:59)

* package/issue updates + r.a.d.o repo state  (h01ger, 17:11:06)
  * HELP:   (mapreri, 17:12:18)

* package/issue updates + r.a.d.o repo state / discuss
  ftbfs_on_testing_due_to_unmigrated_dependencies issue  (h01ger,
  17:12:35)
  * AGREED: ftbfs_on_testing_due_to_unmigrated_dependencies should be
    removed again, it's not helping and causing busy-work  (h01ger,
    17:17:37)
  * as always if you disagree with an irc meeting agreement, bring it up
    on the mailing list. good arguments are convincing, nothing is set
    in stone just because it was decided at an irc meeting.  (h01ger,
    17:18:27)

* package/issue updates + r.a.d.o repo state / discuss ftbfs usertag
  (h01ger, 17:18:46)

* package/issue updates + r.a.d.o repo state / discuss
  ftbfs_on_testing_due_to_unmigrated_dependencies issue  (h01ger,
  17:18:59)
  * ACTION: deki will remove the
    ftbfs_on_testing_due_to_unmigrated_dependencies issue  (h01ger,
    17:19:55)

* package/issue updates + r.a.d.o repo state / discuss ftbfs usertag
  (h01ger, 17:20:00)
  * LINK:
    https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?usertag=reproducible-builds@lists.alioth.debian.org
    shows all no matter which tag, so maybe we should agree to omit some
    tags from rb.d.n indeed  (h01ger, 17:30:19)
  * maybe rename "ftbfs" usertag to "untestable"? (as this is what we
    care about)  (h01ger, 17:33:35)
  * please do speak up about ↑  (mapreri, 17:34:15)
  * integrate 'ftbfs' usertagged bugs in rb.d.n has been added to its
    TODO  (h01ger, 17:38:24)

* package/issue updates + r.a.d.o repo state / how to deal with cases
  like #786694  (h01ger, 17:38:41)
  * ACTION: deki to clone+reassign+comment+usertag on #786694  (mapreri,
    17:43:06)
  * for cases like #786694 which are building info pages, but have no
    makeinfo available, fixing the build-deps is the way to go. but
    should probably be filed as RC (pending RC team confirmation would
    be nice), but definitly important. and usertagged "ftbfs" too
    (h01ger, 17:46:52)

* rp.d.n updates+issues  (h01ger, 17:47:01)

* rp.d.n updates+issues /     mail notification issues  (h01ger,
  17:48:41)
  * mail notifications are only send for status changes - so unless we
    break stuff (like tonight, were 1000 packages wrongly became
    unreproducible) our frequent rebuilds cause no notifications
    (h01ger, 17:54:35)

* GSoC updates  (h01ger, 17:54:44)
  * LINK:
    http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/reproducible-builds/Week-of-Mon-20150608/001910.html
    (h01ger, 17:55:27)
  * LINK:
    http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/reproducible-builds/Week-of-Mon-20150615/001922.html
    (h01ger, 17:55:28)
  * are the latest reports, more are linked at
    https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds/About#Publicity  (h01ger,
    17:55:42)

* any other business  (h01ger, 17:59:23)
  * next meeting moved one week earlier, to tuesday, june 23rd at 1700
    UTC. next meeting after that will be july 7th, 1700 UTC  (h01ger,
    18:09:15)

* announce next meeting  (h01ger, 18:09:33)

Meeting ended at 18:10:54 UTC.




Action Items
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* deki will remove the ftbfs_on_testing_due_to_unmigrated_dependencies
  issue
* deki to clone+reassign+comment+usertag on #786694




Action Items, by person
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* deki
  * deki will remove the ftbfs_on_testing_due_to_unmigrated_dependencies
    issue
  * deki to clone+reassign+comment+usertag on #786694
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* h01ger (162)
* mapreri (86)
* deki (27)
* Faux (13)
* Dhole (12)
* MeetBot (9)
* fchmmr (7)
* akira (4)
* AGWA (4)




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