18:00:37 <OdyX> #startmeeting 18:00:37 <MeetBot> Meeting started Wed Sep 4 18:00:37 2019 UTC. The chair is OdyX. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:37 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:44 <OdyX> #info Agenda is there: https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/minidebconfvaumarcus-20190904 18:00:51 <OdyX> #topic Intro - Who's there ? 18:00:57 * XTaran is here. 18:00:58 <OdyX> #topic Intro - Who's there ? 18:01:10 <OdyX> #topic Intro 18:01:20 <OdyX> Okay. I thought it'd change the /topic. 18:01:24 <OdyX> I'm here too. 18:01:27 <OdyX> :-) 18:01:32 <OdyX> #save 18:02:23 <OdyX> I've seen jathan and axhn at least. 18:02:26 <XTaran> OdyX: Not sure if MeetBot needs (half-)op for that. 18:03:28 <XTaran> #topic Intro 18:03:34 <XTaran> Meh. 18:03:44 <OdyX> #topic Review of last meeting actions 18:03:51 <OdyX> #chair XTaran 18:03:51 <MeetBot> Current chairs: OdyX XTaran 18:03:52 <XTaran> Ah! 18:04:04 <OdyX> #link https://salsa.debian.org/debian-ch-team/minidebconf19/blob/master/meetings/debian-ch.2019-08-21.md#actions-per-person 18:04:07 <OdyX> #link https://salsa.debian.org/debian-ch-team/minidebconf19/blob/master/meetings/debian-ch.2019-08-21.md#actions-per-person 18:04:17 <OdyX> Meh² 18:04:25 <OdyX> Anyway. Let's do what we came here for. 18:04:37 <XTaran> *nod* 18:04:40 <OdyX> We've heard from Video, thanks jathan and others. 18:04:53 <OdyX> I've seen Registration move, thanks XTaran 18:04:58 <jathan> Great. I woul mention that. 18:05:04 <OdyX> and Registration opened. 18:05:06 <XTaran> OdyX: Actually submissions. 18:05:15 <XTaran> OdyX: Registation was you yourself. :) 18:05:21 <XTaran> +r 18:06:02 <OdyX> Also, a first batch of sponsoring requests went out. Two answers so far. One monetary, one "no money, but server ressources" 18:06:15 <OdyX> I'll info this during the Sponsoring point. 18:06:21 <OdyX> #topic Venue coordination 18:06:32 <OdyX> #info Could get LeCamp on the Phone 18:06:40 <OdyX> They're very nice, not much changed. 18:06:49 <OdyX> #info The venue is almost full with a CEVI Bern meetup https://www.ceviregionbern.ch/event/konfcamp-4/. There are ~ 11 good beds left, and one 20-bunk-beds house. That doesn't leave a lot of margin for additional attendees. Pre-reservation of these additional beds should be done 10+ days in advance. 18:07:21 <OdyX> This means the maximum capacity for the miniDebConf is 93. 18:07:34 <OdyX> I don't expect to need more than the planned 62, but we'lee see 18:07:40 <OdyX> we'll 18:07:51 <OdyX> Good to know we have a bit of margin. 18:07:56 <jathan> Olasd will be in touch regarding to help to bring the Video Team Stuff to Vaumarcus :) 18:08:09 <OdyX> But I don't really think we should per-book some more beds just yet. 18:08:19 <OdyX> #info Lower Rotonde (conf room) must be freed by previous renters for 11:30, but additional cleanup might be needed. No guarantee of access before Friday 14:30, sorry. 18:08:49 <OdyX> That means reasonable video setup _in the room_ can only happen from Friday 14:30. 18:09:01 <jathan> Ok. 18:09:08 <jathan> I understand. 18:09:18 <OdyX> That said, even if I didn't ask explicitely, I'm sure we can bring and safely deposit hardware before that. 18:09:52 <OdyX> I have a phonecall scheduled tomorrow with the tech guy for access to theur internet uplink, eventual deposit of hardware servers. 18:09:57 <OdyX> (Is that still a need?) 18:10:33 <olasd> not for a miniconf 18:10:46 <OdyX> Ah, good. FSVO "good". 18:11:03 <OdyX> olasd: use of a swiss-network VM somewhere? 18:11:05 <olasd> at least video team only needs an uplink with internet connection 18:11:14 <OdyX> so wired ethernet I guess. 18:11:21 <olasd> yes 18:11:41 <OdyX> #info Video Team doesn't need to deposit physical servers, but needs wired ethernet. 18:11:50 <OdyX> #action OdyX to make wired ethernet happen 18:12:41 <OdyX> There are other small things for the venue, but for other topics. 18:12:46 <OdyX> #topic Finances 18:13:06 <OdyX> #info hug agreed to do budgeting, accounting, invoicing, etc. 18:13:11 <OdyX> Good news this. 18:13:21 <XTaran> Yay! 18:13:44 <OdyX> In his absence, not much else to say. 18:13:45 <jathan> Great! 18:13:50 <OdyX> #topic Sponsors 18:14:18 <olasd> (I'm at the movie theater so I'll need to disappear $soon if you need me for anything else) 18:14:39 <jathan> olasd: Thanks. Enjoy your film :) 18:14:57 <OdyX> olasd: just whether an access to a swiss VM would be useful, if so of what specs? (sponsor) 18:15:09 <OdyX> (one or multiple) 18:16:44 * joostvb lurks 18:16:45 <OdyX> #info 9 sponsors contacted with custom emails and an ok'ish sponsor letter. The goal was to get them out "quick" 18:16:49 <olasd> OdyX: I guess we can put the streaming backend there, I'll let you know specs off meeting 18:17:00 * olasd goes afk 18:17:09 <OdyX> /bye 18:17:31 <OdyX> More sponsors needed/wanted. If you have contacts, please reach out to me. 18:17:42 <OdyX> #topic Content 18:17:52 <OdyX> I guess the stage is XTaran's :-) 18:18:07 <axhn> *drumsro^Happlause* 18:18:39 <XTaran> #info I've started a CfP wiki page at https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/ch/2019/Vaumarcus/TalkSubmissions 18:19:11 <XTaran> I'd like to link that from the main page after this meeting, at least before the next round of announcement mails. 18:19:38 <XTaran> Please review my suggested "topic suggestions" as well as maybe the time slot sizes. 18:19:45 <OdyX> Deadline this Friday ? 18:19:48 <XTaran> Do we also want to have workshops? 18:19:55 <XTaran> OdyX: For submissions? 18:20:00 <XTaran> OdyX: Or for the review? 18:20:04 <OdyX> Nah, for reviewing 18:20:26 <XTaran> OdyX: As you want. I assume you're the one wanting to send out a mail soon™. :-) 18:20:47 <OdyX> You too I hope. 18:21:04 <OdyX> I can't really tonight, hence my "Friday" 18:21:06 <XTaran> But if the meeting considers this to be ok anyway, I'm fine to link it immediately. :-) 18:21:13 <XTaran> OdyX: Ok. 18:21:34 <OdyX> XTaran: I can review and do the linking tomorrow if that works for you. 18:21:39 <XTaran> #action XTaran will wait until Friday for reviews of https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/ch/2019/Vaumarcus/TalkSubmissions and then link the page on the main page. 18:21:56 <XTaran> Friday evening actually, probably close to midgnight. 18:22:07 <OdyX> #action OdyX to coordinate a "CfP announcement email with debian-publicity?" 18:22:52 <XTaran> I'd say the submission dead line is probably until just a few days before, maybe the weekend before. 18:23:01 <XTaran> Haven't put any in yet. 18:23:12 <OdyX> Yeah, unless it fills super rapidly. 18:23:17 <XTaran> Ack. 18:23:28 <OdyX> #topic Bar 18:23:54 <OdyX> I've asked 3 fellow colleagues if they could assist, still waiting for formal answers (one no though). 18:23:57 <OdyX> That's for serving. 18:24:03 <OdyX> From the venue call though; 18:24:22 <OdyX> #info They charge 180CHF for a 20L keg of Boxer, and 120CHF for another keg we'd buy. 18:24:38 <OdyX> So it makes non-venue beer prohibitive to sell. 18:25:05 <OdyX> It makes a 4CHF tap beer. 18:25:46 <OdyX> As boxer is not the best of beers, but given that we'd pay for full kegs anyway, I'll try discussing with LeCamp to arrange for another beer proposal. 18:26:22 <OdyX> But given the staffing situation (tight), "just" taking their standard beer offer is most probably the easiest. 18:26:29 <XTaran> Ack. 18:26:47 <XTaran> (I've got no idea of good and bad beers, thought, tbh.) 18:26:55 <XTaran> -t 18:27:05 <OdyX> The Rotonde building we're in has a professional kitchen including glasses and stuff, so no real need to worry about plastic glasses. 18:27:38 <OdyX> If a sponsor could take 3-4 kegs of beer, that'd make some people happy I guess. 18:28:01 <OdyX> #action OdyX to check about 24h coffee & tea offering. 18:28:06 <OdyX> ^made me think 18:28:21 * urbec could help with beer serving, if that helps ;) 18:28:32 <OdyX> urbec: it would, clearly. 18:29:15 <OdyX> My current plan is to decide on the price of individual beers on the tap^W spot, depending on the standard cup size they have. 18:29:33 <OdyX> Ah yes, approximately related. 18:30:04 <OdyX> #info We can clearly access the venue "at large" from the morning on, to clarify things with the staff. 18:30:21 <OdyX> … just the rented buildings only from 14:30. 18:30:28 <OdyX> #topic Infrastructure 18:30:56 <OdyX> Writing down a sponsor letter made me realize the need for T-shirts, badges, etc. 18:31:26 <OdyX> To be very clear; unless a large enough sponsor shows up; I don't expect us to have T-shirts. 18:31:47 <OdyX> But a banner, and some posters will certainly happen. Still slightly too early. 18:31:52 <XTaran> T-shirts also need a lot of coordination and work in advance... 18:32:09 <XTaran> Like collecting sizes, etc. 18:33:12 <OdyX> I didn't write down the categories on the wiki, but a "logo on T-shirt" sponsor is >= 2'500 CHF. 18:33:43 <OdyX> #topic Video Team 18:34:09 <OdyX> I hear it's happening. olasd, ivodd and jathan have been around discussing various aspects. 18:34:16 <OdyX> jathan: anything to mention? 18:34:17 <XTaran> Good. 18:34:52 <jathan> OdyX: Not something new besides olasd help :) 18:34:59 <XTaran> JFTR: At CCCamp I contacted the CHVOC team and would have also done it in case this wouldn't have worked out. 18:35:06 <XTaran> +they 18:35:28 <OdyX> XTaran: perhaps invite them nevertheless, for hacking, and video-practices exchange? 18:35:40 <XTaran> OdyX: Will do. 18:36:15 <OdyX> #info Video is happening, thanks to olasd, jathan, ivodd and others. 18:36:16 <XTaran> OdyX: Do you prefer to send out the inivitations to all relevant lists at all or per-list? 18:36:29 <OdyX> CfP you mean? 18:36:32 <XTaran> Yes. 18:36:49 <OdyX> All relevant lists at once, perhaps re-send to the forgotten ones? 18:37:02 <joostvb> and coordinate with publicity 18:37:04 <XTaran> OdyX: I can give some more addresses. 18:37:21 <XTaran> OdyX: Or I then forward the mail. Can discuss later. 18:37:44 <OdyX> joostvb: what is the preffered medium? I've mailed the debian-publicity , but it didn't seem efficient. 18:37:57 <joostvb> OdyX: o! 18:38:25 <joostvb> OdyX: i'll check 18:38:58 <OdyX> joostvb: I've mailed once, to ask for help. And adrianacc came here. But if it helps, I can certainly join the chan. 18:39:43 <OdyX> #topic Communication 18:39:47 <OdyX> So we're in there. 18:39:52 <OdyX> There was this mishap. 18:39:57 <joostvb> OdyX: i'll get back to you about it 18:40:00 <OdyX> Sorry for that. 18:40:31 <joostvb> OdyX: joining the irc channel would be nice 18:40:44 <OdyX> #action joostvb to report back on the most efficient way to collaborate with debian-publicity. 18:40:57 <OdyX> #topic Sponsoring 18:41:31 <OdyX> All things have been said I guess. I've done a solo job there to write down a letter. 18:41:34 <OdyX> And that's bad. 18:41:53 <OdyX> Sent out some emails, I hope they got well received. 18:42:07 <OdyX> #topic Attendee support 18:42:09 <XTaran> I will send out one more later today. 18:42:32 <XTaran> Talked to a potential sponsor yesterday. They didn't say "no". But also not "yes". 18:42:38 <OdyX> xxxxxxp.kpv.ètto.èk,èsxpki'd.dkc'sci,'.'ècrk 18:42:51 <XTaran> Cat on Keyboard? :) 18:42:53 <joostvb> OdyX: cat? 18:42:54 <OdyX> whoops. Yubikey vomits. 18:42:57 <axhn> Klingon? 18:43:04 <XTaran> OdyX: Password? :) 18:43:14 <OdyX> OTP , all fine. 18:43:17 <XTaran> :) 18:43:26 <OdyX> (and I don't have the braincells to memorize one like that. 18:43:40 <OdyX> Anyway. Badges, signage, etc, will have to wait. 18:43:48 <OdyX> #topic Varia 18:43:59 <OdyX> Anything worth discussing that we'd have missed? 18:44:23 <XTaran> OdyX: What is officially the best way to contact the orga team? 18:44:31 <XTaran> OdyX: debian-switzerland@l.d.o? 18:44:50 <OdyX> XTaran: I've put board@debian.ch everywhere, but it leaves several people out. 18:45:11 <joostvb> a functional non-public one would be nice 18:45:12 <OdyX> XTaran: yeah, I didn't want to have to go through the mailing list creation process. 18:45:15 <XTaran> OdyX: I especially wondered about non-public questions about the submission process or so. 18:45:40 <OdyX> XTaran: would a minidebconf@debian.ch alias work for you? 18:45:52 <OdyX> or minidebconf19@d.c ? 18:45:57 <XTaran> OdyX: Definitely. 18:46:47 <OdyX> #action OdyX to check with hug to setup a private minidebconf19@debian.ch alias pointing to the orga team (hug, gaudenz, OdyX, XTaran, jathan) 18:46:58 <OdyX> Anyone missing; joostvb, olasd ? 18:47:09 <joostvb> no thanks :) 18:47:30 <OdyX> If everyone gets it it's not private anymore. 18:47:43 <OdyX> Let's stick to that list for now, and add some more later. 18:47:47 <OdyX> if needed. 18:47:52 <XTaran> OdyX: It's primarily about being not publically archived. 18:48:00 <joostvb> true 18:48:03 <OdyX> … and not board-only. 18:48:06 <OdyX> Good point XTaran thanks. 18:48:42 <OdyX> Ah, for varia. 18:49:19 <OdyX> #info Got several requests for "attendee + family", and communicated the appropriate children attendance+meals prices. 18:49:34 <OdyX> The venue will be full of all-age people anyway. 18:49:53 <OdyX> (I hope it's not a problem; can still say no for miniDebConf people if it is) 18:50:06 <OdyX> #topic Next meeting 18:50:18 <OdyX> I propose Wednesday 18. September, 20h CEST. 18:50:26 <XTaran> Ack. 18:50:41 <jathan> Ok 18:50:50 <joostvb> ack 18:50:59 <OdyX> 21h is Debian TC, merging both times is ok 18:51:12 <OdyX> #info Next meeting Wednesday 18. September, 20h CEST. 18:51:51 <OdyX> Anything else folks? 18:51:59 <joostvb> not me 18:52:07 <OdyX> Sorry I've talked/written a lot. 18:52:20 <OdyX> Things are moving in the right direction, and, it feels, at the right pace. 18:52:25 <axhn> No worries, you kept things going :) 18:52:28 <XTaran> OdyX: Thanks for having talked/written a lot. :) 18:52:39 <joostvb> <aol>me too!</aol> 18:53:20 <OdyX> Very good. Thanks y'all for attending, and see you in two weeks with a CfP out, and better beer! 18:53:25 <OdyX> #endmeeting