16:59:45 #startmeeting 16:59:45 Meeting started Mon Jun 29 16:59:45 2015 UTC. The chair is hellais. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:59:45 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:59:49 I'm here 16:59:54 excellent! 16:59:56 who else is here? 17:00:59 hi 17:01:16 #help 17:01:25 anadahz: hi! 17:01:36 sbs: funky charset 17:02:05 Yes, from mobile for a few more minutes;) 17:02:35 🙉 17:02:55 hellais: ? 17:03:10 let's start 17:03:17 sounds good 17:03:22 so what went on last week? 17:03:25 who wants to start? 17:03:52 I can give a brief tl;dr 17:04:11 basically I reviewed the current draft of the OTF OONI propopsal and added some feedback 17:04:30 I think we could link to it here or on the list shortly and ask for some feedback soon - thoughts? 17:04:58 the rest of the things I did this week were not OONI related 17:05:16 end of tl;dr 17:05:37 aagbsn: cool thanks. 17:06:32 if people are interested in seeing the proposal they should send me an email, but I don't think it's ideal to make public the current version of the proposal since it contains confidential information. 17:07:54 oh, I wasn't aware 17:08:10 I mean, it's shared on google :P 17:08:37 who's next? 17:10:34 since sbs is on mobile I guess I shall go 17:10:51 so anadahz have been to the citizenlab summer institute during this week 17:11:08 it was a very fruitful and interesting event where a lot of interesting discussions and encounters were made 17:11:29 I will give a couple highlights and perhaps defer further discussion to the later part of the gathering 17:11:59 we identified a series of potential probe operators from a variety of different countries 17:12:36 when we get back they will receive information on how to start gathering measurement data with lepidopter 17:12:54 awesome 17:13:00 great news 17:13:10 any particular regions you might highlight? 17:13:53 we also had a good session on the citizenlab test-lists and defined a roadmap for development that I will soon convert into tickets on the issue tracker (as soon as I get collaborator status and my tablet resuscitates) 17:14:38 aagbsn: some people from east/west and south africa have expressed great interest 17:15:04 I think we will start with south africa since it's the lowest risk one and the person there is very interested 17:15:16 but there are plenty more also 17:17:11 Our article about the Greek censorship is going to be published at USENIX FOCI workshop (https://www.usenix.org/conference/foci15/workshop-program). A blog version of the article can be found here: https://ooni.torproject.org/post/eeep-greek-censorship 17:18:01 anadahz: great! 17:20:09 During citizenlab summer instritute we have worked with willscott: to add some zmap and sattelite datasets into OONI pipeline/API 17:20:36 satellite? 17:21:01 (is that a tool or do you mean space related datasets?) 17:21:23 aagbsn: http://satellite.cs.washington.edu/ 17:22:41 aha 17:23:24 Satellite curently includes a DNS resolution data set perhaps willscott (if he's around) can provide some more info about the project 17:24:18 I had some really nice feedback about lepidopter and RasPis it seems that we are on a good track 17:24:40 I was thinking what would be a nice way to monitor all RasPis managed by OONI 17:24:56 hellais: proposed logstash 17:26:25 hi 17:26:34 anadahz: with these commands you setup logstash on the box and send your logs to the oonipipeline-ng logger: https://github.com/TheTorProject/ooni-pipeline-ng/blob/master/tasks.py#L87 17:26:47 if you want I can create a new dedicated endpoint just for the lepidopter stuff 17:27:08 it sort of sucks that it's a cloud service I guess, but it's extremely convenient to setup and use 17:27:11 willscott: hey! 17:27:20 satellite in one sentence is trying to figure out how much of a view we can collect regularly from one vantage point. we zmap the ipv4 space to find open dns resolvers, and then resolve alexa top 10k domains against them 17:27:40 it looks like in the ooni json format it'll be about 120gb / week of reports 17:28:43 anadahz: sorry I got confused. I was thinking papertrail and not logstash. Papertrail is much simpler to setup than logstash 17:28:59 I would be happy to evaluate/consider other lightweight monitoring tools as well.. 17:29:18 willscott: sorry keep on.. 17:29:52 i think that's about it :) happy to answer questions though 17:30:09 willscott: I think we may be able to do a bit better off if we remove a bit of the redundancy from the json, though 120 GB/week is not really that much 17:31:02 hellais: agreed. it probably compresses well in transit too, so it's only if you care about resting size 17:31:07 willscott: I would say for the time being we proceed by having you upload one batch of the reports and look at analysing that 17:31:35 i'll do that later today 17:31:38 once we are extracting useful information from that first batch we will then setup the automatic upload of 120 GB/week reports 17:32:35 willscott: excellent! 17:36:46 During last week, nuke and I worked together to merge a pull request on measurement-kit-app-ios (https://github.com/measurement-kit/measurement-kit-app-ios/pull/14) 17:37:00 I also contributed a bit to the OONI proposal 17:37:15 that's it 17:38:33 great thanks 17:38:46 here are some numbers for your pleasure: 17:38:46 SELECT count(*) FROM ( 17:38:46 SELECT DISTINCT "probe_cc" 17:38:47 FROM "headers") AS counts 17:38:51 75 17:42:10 so is there something in particular some of you wanted to talk about? 17:43:55 hellais: not specifically, I'd just add that I'm working on the proposal this evening to help refine it 17:46:19 ok good 17:46:26 we also plan to get more work done on that 17:46:45 as well as see if we can also talk a bit to the citizenlab people 17:53:01 so next steps? 17:53:26 I will be working on following up on all the conversations had in canada when I get back to Italy the day after tomorrow 17:53:39 moreover I shall outline the roadmap for the test-lists project 17:53:51 finish the proposal and submit it to OTF (this would actually be priority 1) 17:54:14 and move the organisation of the hackathon forward 17:54:48 (I am meeting on the 4th or 5th with the designers of the announcement page to finish that and start making it into a website) 17:54:50 17:55:53 'll work with hellais on the proposal 17:56:42 release the beta lepidopter image: ETA end of week (when I'm back) 17:59:15 great thanks 18:00:09 We are currently build an OONI cluster.. if anyone has any spare servers to give away will be really nice! 18:02:26 anybody else want to share somthing? 18:06:35 well.. in that case 18:06:40 thanks for attending! 18:06:45 see you next week 18:06:46 #endmeeting