17:00:37 <hellais> #startmeeting
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17:00:40 <hellais> here we go
17:00:47 <hellais> so who is here?
17:01:23 * willscott waves
17:01:28 <landers> here
17:01:41 <poly> hey
17:01:51 <hellais> anadahz: can you restate your presence for the happiness of MeetBot
17:01:52 * sbs is here
17:01:57 * anadahz is here
17:02:04 <hellais> most excellent!
17:02:11 <hellais> so you know the drill, report backs
17:02:18 <hellais> who wants to start?
17:02:30 <poly> I'll go
17:02:39 <poly> short and sweet:
17:03:01 <poly> I've submitted pull requests for network meter features
17:03:14 <poly> specifically now argument parsing should be complete
17:03:19 <jun1> sorry here too.
17:03:23 <poly> and so should be installing/uninstalling plugins
17:03:57 <poly> sbs just came back from vacation, he'll be going though the code sometime soon
17:04:17 <poly> next steps to implement would be managing running instances and the home page
17:04:36 <poly> EOF
17:05:51 <sbs> as regards me
17:06:03 <sbs> as poly said, I'm just back from vacation
17:06:13 <sbs> I just wrote some documentation re: measurement-kit
17:06:23 <sbs> and thought a bit about its APIs
17:06:32 <sbs> EOF
17:07:23 <anadahz> OK from my side:
17:08:04 <anadahz> I attended and presented a paper at FOCI '15
17:08:52 <anadahz> Into the final steps for producing the RasPi image
17:09:30 <anadahz> I 've stuck at the golang compiler package required for the obfs4proxy PT
17:10:31 <anadahz> I 've created a Travis build script that tests and install the tor packages in different architectures and Debian flavours
17:11:25 <anadahz> with a bit of tweaking (add some env variables) it would be able to test more distributions/architectures
17:12:49 <anadahz> can't find the link atm
17:13:03 <anadahz> almost EOF
17:13:36 <anadahz> next person that wants to report back..
17:13:46 <hellais> What I did last week:
17:13:57 <hellais> * Attended CCC camp and met with a lot of interesting people
17:13:58 <hellais> * Launched the registration for the ADINA15 hackathon (Hurray!!)
17:13:58 <hellais> * Meet with jun1 and discussed of hiring Brennan for doing UX work for the OONI API
17:14:00 <hellais> * Did a OONI gathering IRL at CCC where a bunch of good conversations happenned
17:14:33 <hellais> EOF
17:14:53 <willscott> saw several of you at camp. Started trying to understand the pipeline code.
17:14:58 <willscott> main thing i'm interested in at the moment is figuring out how to build a database of prefixes using anycast.
17:15:09 <willscott> asking around to see if i can get mlab servers to run at least ooni latency tests to help with that
17:15:51 <willscott> got a second server for zmap scanning that i'm setting up this week
17:15:59 <willscott> EOF
17:17:04 <hellais> excellent, anybody else want to report back?
17:19:26 <hellais> I guess not
17:19:29 <hellais> anything you would like to talk about?
17:19:38 <hellais> questions, comments, doubts, existential questions?
17:19:45 <poly> hellais: I have a question about ADINA registration
17:19:57 <hellais> poly: shoot
17:20:06 <poly> will the real names we enter be displayed on the website anywhere?
17:20:21 <anadahz> Travis build process test installing tor tor-geoipdb packages from the official and nighly Tor deb repositories for arm* architectures in Debian wheezy and jessie https://travis-ci.org/TheTorProject/lepidopter/builds/74502642
17:20:23 <elephant> Hello. I met some people who work on ooni at CCCamp, and will be testing the RasPi image from Ireland shortly. EOM.
17:20:49 <poly> will they be shared with any outsiders other than the security at ADINA?
17:21:09 <hellais> elephant: ah nice, yes I remember you :)
17:21:45 <hellais> poly: no, the real name will be stored only in the AWS postgres database that currently only I have access to
17:22:03 <poly> hellais: thanks then
17:22:04 <hellais> poly: if that does not fit your threat model, then send me your real name via PGP and put a placeholder name for the registration
17:22:25 <anadahz> poly: or you can have a convinving ID ;)
17:22:46 <poly> ;)
17:22:47 <hellais> poly: actually I would suggest you do this, because I cannot guarantee that I did not commit any error in coding the interface and would not want to expose you by mistake
17:23:07 <poly> will do
17:23:24 <hellais> poly: awesome, but do register on the interface so we can start getting a headcount
17:23:50 <poly> hellais:
17:23:51 <poly> The eight principal winds (or main winds) are the cardinals and ordinals considered together, that is N, NE, E, SE, S, SW, W, NW. Each principal wind is 45° from its neighbour. The principal winds form the basic eight-wind compass rose.
17:23:55 <poly> whoops
17:24:15 <poly> hellais: 0x150FE210 is your key?
17:24:28 <hellais> poly: yes. You can also send it to me via jabber
17:24:59 <hellais> anadahz: "Travis build process test installing .." etc. was this a suggestion for a topic of discussion or ..?
17:25:47 <anadahz> no it was just the link missing in my report
17:26:39 <hellais> elephant: anadahz is the person working on the raspberry pi image, so the two of you should talk about testing the raspberry pi
17:26:46 <hellais> anadahz: gotcha
17:27:24 <hellais> it seems like landers and I are getting expelled from our current location in not too much time
17:27:40 <hellais> so let's try to keep this nice and tight
17:28:23 <hellais> any other aH-Ha-s you would like to share or questions or commments?
17:29:39 <anadahz> hellais: what about the css format of ADINA page?
17:30:04 <hellais> anadahz: can you be more specific?
17:30:13 <elephant> hellais: gotcha, thanks. anadahz: I'll reach out to you with anything I find.
17:31:47 <anadahz> hellais: https://github.com/TheTorProject/ooni-web/pull/15
17:33:00 <anadahz> text alignment looks very ugly
17:33:24 <anadahz> ^ https://ooni.torproject.org/event/adina15/
17:33:40 <hellais> anadahz: I thought we had already discussed this
17:34:03 <hellais> the jist of it is that I spoke to the designers and they said that the website is designed for central alignment and if we change it we need to change other stuff too
17:34:28 <hellais> they made a big list of changes that would need to happen, but there is nobody with enough time (and it's not such a high priority to invest such time in it) to justify doing it
17:34:39 <anadahz> i consider the allignment of the graph of less importance
17:34:45 <hellais> I think that once we get brennan on board we can perhaps have him give the website some design love too
17:34:50 <anadahz> the text is most valuable
17:34:54 <hellais> I agree
17:35:07 <hellais> but the site is designed for center TEXT alignment
17:35:14 <hellais> if you change that you need to change other stuff too
17:35:31 <hellais> and to be clear I am not a designer and I trust what the designers of the website tell me
17:35:53 <hellais> since they told me not to change the alignemnet of the text, after I asked them if I could change it, but suggested instead some alternative fixes I am going to take their word for it
17:36:06 <hellais> up until the point another designer that I also trust comes along and tells me otherwise
17:36:29 <hellais> seem reasonable?
17:36:42 <anadahz> ...
17:36:52 <anadahz> i said my point on that
17:37:08 <anadahz> I 'm not a designer as well
17:37:14 <anadahz> let's hope for the best
17:37:47 <hellais> I can arrange to meet with them when I am back in Rome and implement the fixes they suggest, but I am a bit tight on time so it may not happen
17:38:17 <hellais> I think the current iteration of the adina page passes the smell test, so it should be good enough
17:38:19 * hellais thinks
17:39:49 <sbs> the most disturbing things with the central alignment are the bullet list and the numbered list
17:40:02 <sbs> are there designers suggestions to address those?
17:40:24 <sbs> (especially the bullet list, IMHO)
17:40:34 <hellais> sbs: I forwarded you the suggestions
17:40:41 <hellais> they are written in Italian
17:40:59 <hellais> unfortunately we have to abbandon this location NOW
17:41:22 <hellais> so I will just state what are going to be the next steps for me and we shall speak again when I will be in a more stable location
17:41:40 <hellais> I plan to work on defining the scope of work to be carried out by Brennan related to the OONI API
17:41:59 <sbs> hellais: ah, that's true, I'll see if I can do something, then
17:42:01 <hellais> based on that I will pick up development of the next gen data pipeline and the open data API
17:42:10 <hellais> sbs: excellent
17:42:28 <hellais> if you have some next steps can you all write them together NOW
17:42:35 <hellais> so we have them logged and I can close the meeting
17:42:47 <hellais> (sorry for being in a hurry)
17:53:20 <anadahz> so I guess the meeting is over?
17:53:45 <anadahz> hellais and landers are most probably out already
17:55:47 <willscott> #endmeeting
17:55:59 <willscott> i guess only hellais can do that?
17:56:37 <anadahz> #endmeeting
17:56:50 <anadahz> willscott: it seems so
17:59:25 <poly> longest meeting in OONI history :)
18:07:07 <hellais> #endmeeting