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13:30:45 <nickm> Hello, it's tor dev meeting time!
13:30:56 <nickm> I've landed back at the boston airport and am using their crappy wireless!
13:31:08 <nickm> After this meeting i will go out in the snow and take a bus home.
13:31:14 <nickm> I see athena here.  Anybody else for this meeting?
13:31:29 <Yawning> hi
13:32:22 <nickm> hi Yawning
13:33:34 <nickm> So, I've just been at an implementors meeting for sponsorS.  Met funders, told them about progress.  Apparently something like more than half of the other tech- and training- projects in the room use tor somehow.
13:33:57 <nickm> Interestingly, I heard people say "pluggable transport" just as often as "tor"
13:34:00 <Yawning> lol
13:34:03 <athena> wooo, we're critical infrastructure like openssl!  next stop: onionbleed
13:34:45 <nickm> next stop: no tls.
13:34:47 <Yawning> can we name our massive sploit after a cute and fuzzy animal like POODLE?
13:35:09 <Yawning> WOMBAT
13:35:12 <Yawning> ?
13:35:18 <nickm> I like food names; is there a good one-word dish that is made mostly from onions?
13:35:22 <nickm> (Chutney is taken)
13:35:29 <athena> how about a noisy and inexplicably popular monster like POODLE? :)
13:36:20 <Yawning> anyway, I've actually been poking on tor stuff
13:36:23 <Yawning> !
13:36:33 <Yawning> (#6411)
13:36:35 <nickm> cool!  I've seen some tickets, I think.
13:36:41 <nickm> I hear you have a spec
13:36:47 <Yawning> I have a design
13:37:00 <Yawning> I will propose an adition to control-spec
13:37:11 * nickm nods
13:37:14 <Yawning> it's fairly short, since I opted to keep it simple
13:37:30 <Yawning> and more importantly it works, though I need to add one minor tweak
13:37:41 <nickm> sounds good.  Please poke me to look it over some time?
13:37:47 <Yawning> mmhmm
13:38:43 <nicoo> nickm: Grøstl is food, but is already taken :þ
13:39:14 <nickm> I'm working on a blog post about cool stuff in 0.2.6, reviewing guardiness/guard-weight tickets, and seeing what else I can do for 0.2.6
13:39:47 <nickm> we're getting pretty low on 0.2.6 tickets; I wonder if we can get an alpha out this weekend or early next week
13:41:07 <nickm> oh hey, some of these tickets have patches that didn't before
13:42:31 <athena> i'm going to end up saying defer/0.2.7 on #9729 due to lack of consideration of side effects of changing the parsing code on the dirauths and not liking the asymmetry of arbitrarily declaring one listener primary and the others additional
13:42:40 <athena> man, what a long annoying code review :)
13:42:49 <nickm> sorry there :(
13:43:17 <nickm> make sure you list what's gotta get changed, and note the point at which you stopped reviewing, so that the next time we come back and review this, we can review the new stuff :)
13:43:46 <athena> no problem
13:44:26 <Yawning> was there anything cool at the meeting?
13:44:32 <nickm> Sebastian, sysrqb : how are we doing on #12538?
13:44:49 <nickm> Yawning: lots of people who want to work with tor and have fun ideas about how to do it
13:45:10 <nickm> Yawning: some people who know more crypto than me, and lots who know less
13:45:32 <nickm> Yawning: bright-eyed and idealistic grad students; bitter professors; determined human rights workers
13:45:44 <Yawning> sounds like our dev meetings
13:45:46 <nickm> Yawning: about a kazillion people for me to follow up with
13:47:16 <nickm> Yawning, athena: Could one of you give a quick sanity-check on #14478 ? I no longer believe that I understand SH. :)
13:47:32 <Yawning> huh the usual tech journalism^w^wclickbait trash is talking about memex
13:48:47 <Yawning> my sh fu is kind of weak :/
13:49:48 <nickm> mine too but maybe together we can persevere
13:50:45 <nickm> athena: I see a few more tickets on your review plate for after this one.  Want me to take one?
13:50:53 * nickm is kind of banging his head on the guardiness stuff
13:53:31 <nickm> (arg, this wifi makes me log in again after 30 minutes)
13:54:53 <athena> nickm: sure if you want
13:55:10 <nickm> well, I want to see how many things we can get reviewed and either merged or deferred this week
13:55:38 <nickm> oh.  I have a trivial thing that didn't make the feature window, but it would be Easy, and it is not exactly a Feature: let's remove mempool and buf freelists entirely
13:55:48 <athena> no objection
13:55:49 <nickm> they're off by default in 0.2.5, and nobody complained :)
13:55:58 <nickm> ok, I'll move from 0.2.7 to 0.2.6
13:57:59 <Yawning> yeah n objection
13:58:06 <nickm> great.
14:00:10 <nickm> athena: want to pick one for me to look at?
14:01:49 <nickm> anything more to talk about at this meeting today?
14:02:27 <nickm> 8 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 387 deletions(-)
14:03:35 <dgoulet> hello meeting! (fail by 30 min :)
14:04:33 <dgoulet> nickm: this week I'm trying to focus much more on sponrorR who needs my attention, are you in need of anything from me for 0.2.6 ?
14:05:11 <nickm> do you have any tickets you're supposed to review or any tickets you're supposed to fix?  If not, nope
14:05:47 <nickm> athena, Yawning: #14848 is ready for review; review should be easy
14:06:02 <athena> nickm: why don't you worry about that one virgil tried to bribe us for?
14:06:18 <nickm> ah, okay.
14:06:39 <nickm> will look again
14:07:29 <nickm> good idea
14:07:40 <nickm> should we divide up the tickets in "new" ?
14:08:10 <dgoulet> nickm: ack! nothing with my name for 0.2.6 on it for now
14:08:31 <nickm> then np; have fun
14:11:19 <nickm> I propose to divide up the new tickets as follows:
14:11:48 <nickm> athena: could you answer #13856 ?  I think the answer will be , "No new code required"
14:12:08 <nickm> I will have a crack at #14759; I think it is a one-liner
14:12:32 <nickm> #10461 is messy; I will spend an hour or two on it and see if I have progress.
14:12:48 <nickm> Maybe dgoulet could poke at #12464 next week? ISTR he has done profiling in the past.
14:12:58 <dgoulet> oh I did some experiment on #13856 that I forgot to post the results!! basically measuring memory over 5 days on my relay and turns out everything was stable at 816mb
14:12:58 <nickm> ok so far?
14:13:09 <nickm> dgoulet: great
14:13:42 <dgoulet> nickm: I can take the oom + profiling and post it, my relay has been running git head for a week now so I'll get good results
14:14:49 <nickm> great
14:15:27 <nickm> still wrt #13856, I would like athena to have a quick think about the code and data structures
14:16:13 <dgoulet> ofc
14:16:23 <nickm> athena: ok with you?
14:17:11 <nickm> This probably gives us enough work for a couple of days.  If anybody runs out, there are a few tickets left in new or reopened that we can poke.
14:24:49 <nickm> anything else for today, friends?
14:27:42 <nickm> #endmeeting