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13:30:15 <nickm> Hi, all!  It's the weekly tor development meeting.  Let's check in!
13:30:48 <nickm> I've been merging patches, trying to get a changelog together, and writing lots of small documents that were in the TorCore201507 keyword
13:30:56 <nickm> *TorCoreTeam201507
13:31:01 <nickm> or whatever we called it
13:31:50 <nickm> next steps for me are trying to get another alpha release out, reviewing more patches, revising my "how to report security bugs and what we do then" document, and hopefully finally a #15055 implementation
13:31:55 <nickm> also sleep. i need sleep.  or tea
13:31:59 <nickm> who's next?
13:32:02 <nickm> (hi all)
13:33:18 <nickm> anybody else here today?  I know Yawning had to go to sleep...
13:33:30 * rl1987 lurking
13:33:42 <rl1987> and working on some unit tests.
13:33:43 <nickm> asn_: dgoulet: athena:  teor: anything to talk about this morning?
13:33:45 <nickm> hi rl1987
13:33:55 <nickm> rl1987: do you know how to do coverage, btw?
13:34:03 <nickm> I find it's really helpful when I want to write tests
13:34:09 <rl1987> yes, done that before.
13:34:12 <nickm> great
13:34:22 <nickm> ok, I'm going to wait another 5-10 minutes :)
13:34:30 <asn_> ehm hello. was not prepared for this actually :)
13:34:43 <asn_> i'm back in europe after the HS hackfest in DC
13:34:48 <nickm> no worries
13:34:54 <nickm> yaaay.
13:34:55 <asn_> my main priorities currently are:
13:35:08 <asn_> a) write a post about the hackfest, to have a summary of our progress and decisions
13:35:26 <asn_> b) work on #16255 which screws up the guardfraction feature
13:35:37 <asn_> c) finalize the shared randomness proposal with dgoulet
13:35:54 <asn_> i also need to review donncha's new #14846
13:36:00 <asn_> and #15588
13:36:06 <asn_> and more stuff.
13:36:21 <asn_> so that's that :)
13:36:26 <nickm> cool
13:36:29 <nickm> sounds busy
13:36:47 <nickm> also don't forget I need a guard algorithm writeup draft?
13:37:01 <virgil> I made pretty pictures of the tor-family graph if people are into that---http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3308162/both.pdf
13:37:05 <asn_> yes that's also in my plan.
13:37:13 <nickm> woot
13:37:40 <asn_> but it's\ hard enough, that i prioritized those tasks above it.
13:37:43 <nickm> virgil: neat
13:37:53 <virgil> there's discussion about what it means on tor-relays@
13:37:54 <nickm> asn_: makes sense.
13:38:35 <nickm> anybody else around? This could be a short meeting...
13:38:43 <virgil> nickm: in short, the graph is very partitionable in disjoint clusters.  Which is nice to see.
13:38:46 <rl1987> virgil: what are there large families? torservers.net?
13:38:46 <nickm> I'll hang out for another 6 minutes just in case
13:39:19 <virgil> rl1987: I presume so.  www.tor-roster.org will show them to you.
13:39:36 <nickm> ok, I hear dgoulet is scrambling to go to the R meeting and packing for a flight afterwards
13:39:47 <nickm> so that's one more accounted for...
13:39:54 <isabela> virgil: that is cool
13:41:14 <isabela> we should tweet it
13:42:10 <nickm> virgil: I wonder if your graph implies anything about whether we should/shouldn't prioritize proposal 242
13:42:14 <nickm> prop#242
13:44:22 <virgil> nickm: I would claim the graph implies that operators are largely using the MyFamily okay.  As-is there's very few few cases where it's ambiguous where the boundaries of a Family lie.
13:46:04 <nickm> well, there are some problems though.  Some of those groups are nonclique
13:46:29 <virgil> nickm: natually.  I think full clique behavior is unrealistic.
13:47:12 <virgil> nickm: But the important thing is that on the backend we can determine the "effective families" with few ambiguous cases.
13:47:46 <nickm> ok, it's 15 minutes into the meeting, so I'll assume that that's everybody for today.  Till next week!
13:47:49 <nickm> #endmeeting