16:59:49 #startmeeting weekly network team tor-dev meeting a go go 16:59:49 Meeting started Mon Jul 25 16:59:49 2016 UTC. The chair is nickm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:59:49 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:18 nickm: armadev: athena : isis : Yawning : teor : dgoulet: asn: (if you're around, this is of potential interest!) 17:00:21 isabela: ^ 17:00:26 so, let's start with our happyfun status reports: 17:00:31 1) I was at pets. 17:00:59 2) I hope I can get #19468 done by the end of the month, and make significant progress on 15055, and on documentation. There's a lot to do though! 17:01:10 3) I should also do a bunch of code-review and merge. 17:01:17 4) I should also try to get another 028 out. 17:01:23 5) please review code! 17:01:34 o/ 17:01:35 and that's about it for me. questions/tasks for me? anybody want to go next? 17:02:24 (hi isabela) 17:02:28 I can go, I was at hope last weekend. This week I plan on finishing sponsorS quarterly report a grant proposal I am working with Cass and Alison and prep for DC next week 17:02:29 hi 17:02:42 and the retrospective! 17:02:43 busy! 17:02:44 done 17:02:45 :) 17:02:50 hi 17:02:53 the retrospective is in 6 hours, right? 17:02:57 hisis! 17:02:58 yeah all the above has august 1 as deadline 17:03:07 *hi isis 17:03:23 nickm: let me convert ! 17:03:26 does everyone whose help you need know the timeline? 17:03:41 lol, the contraction of the phrase is fine :) 17:04:18 nickm: for the report? or the grant? 17:04:27 all of your aug1 stuff 17:04:29 hahah 17:04:30 yes 17:04:34 ppl do 17:04:43 i will need you to review what I write for core tor 17:04:49 but that should not take much of your time 17:05:10 * nickm totally misundurstood that for about 3 seconds, and thought you were writing a patch :) 17:05:21 hahaha 17:05:32 last week i was at PETS, had some meetings with people there, merged proposals prop#269 and prop#270, and started making a prototype of prop#269 17:05:58 this week i will be working on my OTF stuff because that's what i'm supposed to do 17:06:50 hi meeting! 17:07:04 hi athena ! 17:07:07 hey athena 17:07:17 isis: any coordination needed with the OTF stuff? 17:07:33 coordination? 17:07:46 like patches getting merged in time? 17:07:46 hi athena 17:07:53 hi 17:07:59 o/ 17:08:10 isis: yeah, like that. or getting proposals reviewed, or preliminary work done, or etc etc 17:08:14 hi Yawning ! 17:08:15 the top 5 countries for users are United States, Russia, Germany, France, United Kingdom. tor browser download countries are not available because the logs are scrubbed of ip addresses. 17:08:17 I kinda took last week off-ish to regain sanity. 17:08:20 nickm: not atm, but thanks! 17:08:23 Yawning: woo sanity! 17:08:25 Sanity sort of restored to functional levels 17:08:48 I've been playing with trying to sandbox tor browser 17:08:56 see my post to tor-dev@ 17:08:57 neat 17:08:59 works better than it should 17:09:13 considering it's firejail + LD_PRELOAD 17:09:24 so my tor browser only speaks af_unix 17:10:02 this week I will do whatever is most important, was thinking about doing core tor stuff and poking at the sandboxing crap on and off 17:10:27 if there are things that require more immediate attention like "all the thuggable transports beat me up and took my lunch money" 17:10:30 I shall work on that 17:10:59 sounds good. do you have/need some core tor stuff to poke? 17:11:16 there's a mountain of core tor stuff that needs to be done 17:11:23 so I can find things 17:11:32 Yawning: sponsor tickets from 029 that you took can be one thing 17:11:56 yes,, +1 on sponsored 029 stuff that's assigned to you. 2ndary would be other sponsored 029 stuff 17:12:09 once we're done with all the must-do sponsored stuff we'll have a little more time I hope :) 17:12:26 part of me still wants to write a tor implementation as my hello world in rust, but that's not sponsored and would probably burn off all my sanity again 17:12:33 :P 17:12:51 Yawning: I want to start hacking an implementation of the voting algorithm in rust. But only in my spare time. :) 17:13:01 rust still fills me with rage 17:13:27 so my spare time stuff prolly will continue to be C++/go for the time being 17:13:48 hello people :) 17:14:01 seems like my highlight is broken 17:14:36 Yawning: do you think some time today you can let me know what tickets you'll be working on this week? It helps to have a little visibility in advance 17:14:39 hi asn ! 17:14:48 uh 17:14:50 maybe 17:15:17 last week i've been busy with HOPE and slide building. we did two talks, they went well. also did some prop224 stuff while travelling. 17:15:32 my first order of business was to look at my list, prolly that like crypto parallization ticket that's been stuck in needs_revision for way too long 17:15:35 when it's simple 17:15:42 haven't had a chance to deeply look at the newest prop259 changes. what I read looks good. i plan to read deeply today or tomorrow. 17:15:59 (FYI prop259 is no longer changing; the new one will get a new number) 17:16:06 nickm: yep. not sure how to refer to that. 17:16:11 prop#259 17:16:15 oh, that 17:16:30 next week I'll likely be catching up with insane amounts of ticket/task backlog I accumulated while travelling 17:16:50 also i have to follow up with some people from HOPE 17:16:59 nickm: on a side note, someone (probably me) should build our next "probably rc" with new openssl again 17:17:12 ooh, good point 17:17:18 asn: are there videos of the HOPE talks somewhere? 17:17:27 though depending on how we feel about backporting compatibility stuff 17:17:36 we could say "screw it, we'll fix it when it's out and it breaks" 17:17:52 isis: i think mrphs got the talk DVDs (!?) and he is going to upload them to youtube 17:18:01 there is no hope, only eternal despair and darkness 17:18:13 Yawning: well said 17:18:35 Yawning: i'd say "it depends on how much darkness and despair we're looking at" 17:18:39 also the "prop#259" (or whatever number it's going to be) changes which were in gitlab looked good to me ~2 weeks ago when i cursorily read them 17:18:40 any more, or next update? 17:19:09 isis: teor had some tricky comments on the related ticket #19468, which I am only sorta-kinda sure on 17:19:33 I *think* that we're converging on something that would work, or which could be more easily adapted to work than the current thing -- but i dunno 17:20:16 asn: isis: they'll be up tomorrow or so on tpo youtube account - currently waiting for sysrqb to rip them. 17:20:27 asn: isis: meanwhile, here's the first talk http://livestream.com/internetsociety/hopeconf/videos/130664126 17:21:28 * dgoulet arrived at SponsorR meeting... unfortunately not available much now, sorry about that :S 17:22:07 any more updates this week? athena? 17:23:27 anybody? 17:24:46 ugh, those issues on #19468 are a bit commmplicated 17:25:22 i will need to sit without distraction with the old version of the proposal, the ticket, and the new proposal and think about them. 17:27:47 i have #8625 ready for review, and i'm still waiting for comment on #18320 and #18640. currently working on #19552 and #19333. nickm, you wanted to toss some new-guards stuff at me IIRC? 17:27:50 ok, while 17:27:59 ah! 17:28:01 thanks! 17:28:32 athena: probably step 1 is to read the most recent version of my proposal on #19468, skim through the twstrike code, and decide how much we can reuse? 17:28:48 sure 17:29:01 maybe you'd be able to do a couple of the TODOs at the end of the 19468, like specifying an (easy! simple!) storage format or (simple! please!) migration plan? 17:29:09 or would you rather I did those too? 17:29:23 yeah, i think i can handle that 17:29:46 cool 17:30:01 who is reviewer on your needs_Review tickets? Is it all me? 17:31:21 #18640 is you; #18320 was last reviewed by dgoulet, who thought he found a bug but i don't think it actually was and explained why on the ticket, and i'm waiting for either a "no, this is actually a bug" or "okay, good to go" from someone 17:32:07 dgoulet: do you have time to look at athena's #18320 in the next day or two, or should we call that merge_ready and push it at me? 17:33:54 anybody else with updates, or should we move to discussion? 17:36:45 okay. discussion! anybody have topics? or should we save everything for the retrospective? 17:36:53 I don't have much for today other than "reviews please" 17:37:39 * isis has to take off, but will be at the retrospective 17:38:30 no topics? 17:38:38 then I declare this meeting over in like 2 minutes 17:38:48 no topics from me 17:38:51 (I get the feeling everybody is pretty busy today....) 17:39:11 and we have another long meeting later 17:39:36 pick your gifs! 17:39:37 :) 17:39:53 peace all! 17:40:02 thanks nickm o/ 17:40:03 I'm going offline for a bit, to try to limit myself to an 8 hour day :) 17:40:09 see you later 17:40:12 #endmeeting