17:00:58 <nickm> #startmeeting weekly network team meeting
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17:00:59 <nickm> hello!
17:01:20 <asn> howdy
17:01:52 <nickm> welcome to our happyfun weekly network team meeting.
17:02:01 <nickm> probably no meeting next week: too many people at the dev meeting in seattle.
17:02:40 <isabela> buenas!
17:02:50 <nickm> This past week I've been hacking on 15056 , reviewing code, writing code, answering questions, trying to remain more or less sane, etc
17:03:05 <nickm> I'm really hoping we get to seattle without a big pile of code to review.
17:03:20 <dgoulet> hola
17:03:55 <nickm> this week I mean to review some open branches. And finish implementing 15056. And, if athena gets the data-structures part of the guards thing done, start contributing to that.
17:04:16 <nickm> Also I'm trying to re-create a secure PGP setup, so I can access my primary key again.  Wish me luck.
17:04:31 <dgoulet> good luck! :)
17:05:03 <nickm> Also I hope to work with isabela to make sure we come to the seattle meeting with the boring part of the roadmapping (poring over the constracts to find all the deliverables) done
17:05:18 <isis> break a leg?
17:05:24 <isis> break a usb stick?
17:06:01 <nickm> also I am placing a very high priority on getting enough sleep this week and showing up healthy and sane. Others probably should too :)
17:06:13 <nickm> and that's about it for my update, though I may remember more things.
17:06:30 <nickm> People who want me to review their code should review other code too. :)
17:06:41 <nickm> fixing bugs is also welcome
17:06:46 <nickm> next status update?
17:06:49 <asn> i can go
17:06:59 <asn> During past week I did plenty of review and email backlog. Reviewed david's
17:06:59 <asn> fixes on #17238 fixes. Reviewed #19998 and #20001, #20138. Also triaged a
17:06:59 <asn> hackerone report.
17:07:32 <asn> EOF
17:08:54 <nickm> cool. next?
17:09:01 <dgoulet> hello! on my part addressing #17238 took me a while, I did a review of nickm's tor and torspec patch of prop#264, since this morning some minor review grom group-9
17:09:55 <dgoulet> I'm continuing reviews for now as I'm waiting for #17238 round 2 feedbacks :) ... I plan also to then do a bit of code for prop#224 relay cells, I believe #20004 is one of them
17:10:03 <dgoulet> --
17:10:26 <asn> may i suggest we start a gitlab for the round 2 feedback?
17:10:35 <nickm> I suggest no
17:10:40 <nickm> like, let's use the same gitlab
17:10:50 <asn> i mean a gitlab merge request
17:10:52 <nickm> so I can look at the comments there, respond to them, know what I responded to, etc
17:10:56 <asn> because the current merge request does not have the new code
17:10:58 <nickm> let's use the same merge request
17:11:09 <nickm> so push it to the same branch, and it will work fine?
17:11:18 <nickm> unless you rebased or something
17:11:37 <dgoulet> asn: huh it does I pushed the fixup commits... ?
17:11:52 <asn> dgoulet: ah ack. didn't notice. then let's use that merge request indeed.
17:11:53 <dgoulet> this is why the commit values have been "auto link" in the comments :)
17:14:09 <dgoulet> altough it's a large amount of fixup commits so hopefully the rebase will go well... I know there are conflicts because RSOS has been merged before but easy to resolve as far as I can tell
17:15:24 <nickm> we'll see ! :)
17:15:29 <nickm> anybody else with an update?
17:15:39 <athena> update: just about done with big guard refactor for #19858; currently have a few more tweaks to the entry guard unit tests and then testing, then hopefully nickm and i can parallelize subsequent prop-271 stuff working from there
17:15:40 <isabela> i can go
17:16:13 <isabela> (ops sorry athena )
17:19:34 <isabela> ok i can go then :)
17:19:45 <isabela> I am helping OONI on a proposal they are putting together. Also helping orfox get the work for a new grant they got organized and started.
17:19:54 <isabela> Sent out the update on Linda coming onboard as ux lead and preping for meeting with her and for seattle in general.
17:20:05 <isabela> On that note, some of you have already commented on an email I sent to the list about having a meeting for the team.
17:20:15 <isabela> if you haven't seen it yet please review and give feedback on how we can better make use of the time we are actually f2f :)
17:20:17 <isabela> done
17:21:18 <isis> i did #20088 and #20087 and pushed the code to the server, and i also fixed more issues with bridgedb's CI server
17:21:48 <isis> i also spent time doing paperwork and billing for OTF, and then i spent friday - sunday moving
17:23:19 <isis> this week i am planning to get all my paperwork and boring stuff in order, finish my code review of the prop#264 code, and get organised for the meeting
17:23:48 <isis> also test out my zen
17:24:03 <isis> since i am rather nervous to fly into the US
17:24:18 <isis> EOF
17:24:35 <asn> glad to see you are coming isis
17:24:38 <asn> i actually thought you were not
17:24:42 <asn> excellent
17:25:06 <isis> oh, i guess if i need to calm down more, i started implementing the anonymous credentials based on algebraic macs in the moving van
17:25:14 <isis> and i could/should continue that
17:25:25 <isis> since it counts as work!! :)
17:25:46 <isis> i think i have decided to use these instead of the pairing-based credentials
17:26:34 <dgoulet> isis: oh neat you'll see you in Seattle!!!
17:28:41 <isis> asn: i think the FBI should respect my rights in the 1st, 4th, 5th, and 6th amendments, and frankly i am sick of playing this stupid game.
17:29:00 <isis> i don't think they will do anything though, it'll be fine. :)
17:29:21 <isabela> :)
17:29:22 <isis> as a friend of mine once said, "don't happy, be worry"
17:29:30 <asn> :)
17:29:47 <asn> it was said many times i think
17:29:54 <isis> also i am very excite to ee everyone
17:30:02 <isis> s/ee/see/
17:30:10 <isis> okay, actual EOF
17:31:00 <mikeperry> I have been crippled by a laptop failure. I think I have recovered, but I got very little else done. I will have a look at #19958, and give #17857 a try. otherwise I will be workoing on copperhead stuff.
17:31:18 <asn> mikeperry: the machines are not going to win
17:31:27 <asn> laptop failures will be fixed!
17:31:33 <isis> mikeperry: but you started using qubes!
17:32:05 <mikeperry> yes, so something good came of it
17:32:47 <mikeperry> qubes is pretty nice. easier than I expected to get working, though I had to fight with AntiEvilMaid a *lot*
17:34:06 <mikeperry> I'm open to suggestions on #17857. I am thinking that it should just be an emergency-off consensus param only, as I said in the last comment
17:34:23 <mikeperry> and padding should default to on for these services
17:34:59 <mikeperry> otherwise that's it for me
17:35:20 <nickm> mikeperry: i'm not sure whet the difference is for making it emergency-only or not
17:35:31 <nickm> like, the code is the same way, yeah?
17:36:41 <mikeperry> nickm: well, emergency-only as in a super-simple off switch, and not options for reduced padding, or complex overridable torrc option interaction
17:37:05 <isis> delaying the netflow padding is because the timing info on the RSOS doesn't matter, because there's no extra hops?
17:37:08 <nickm> Hm. complex options, no.
17:37:26 <nickm> Sometimes overrideable from torrc makes sesnse, but I don't know how hard that would get. Not hard, I hope.
17:37:38 <nickm> there's already an option to turn padding on and off, so...
17:39:32 <Sebastian> have a great time in Seattle everyone!
17:40:28 <mikeperry> I don't think it should be overidable. if the consensus says don't pad for RSOS/tor2web, we shouldn't pad. similarly if the consensus says don't pad at all, we shouldn't pad at all
17:40:56 <nickm> ok
17:41:03 <mikeperry> (that's what I mean by emergency. as on "holy crap this stuff has to be off right now and nobody should turn it on, or else the network might melt")
17:41:59 <dgoulet> (oh killswitch in the consensus, what can go wrong :P :)
17:42:49 <nickm> ah, ok
17:42:51 <nickm> no objections
17:43:11 <nickm> I think we're out of updates?
17:43:23 <nickm> are we out of discussion topics ?
17:44:18 <nickm> getting ready to #endmeeting .....
17:44:34 <isabela> 1...2...3...
17:44:35 <nickm> thanks everybody!
17:44:36 <nickm> #endmeeting