14:31:04 <karsten> #startmeeting metrics team
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14:31:11 <karsten> https://pad.riseup.net/p/3M7VyrTVgjlF <- agenda pad
14:31:46 <irl> shall we wait or just start?
14:31:58 <karsten> let's wait just 2 minutes or so.
14:32:00 <irl> ok
14:32:15 <iwakeh> Hi there!
14:32:20 <karsten> hi
14:32:43 <karsten> we're waiting another minute or so and adding things to the pad.
14:32:50 <iwakeh> sure.
14:34:05 <karsten> okay, let's start?
14:34:09 <karsten> - Atlas 1.0 (irl)
14:34:53 <irl> ok, so, i've been distracted with many things and i don't think we're any closer to a plan for the first release of atlas
14:35:12 <irl> but i do like karsten's suggestion that we use the same release process as other metrics team things, like metrics-lib
14:35:23 <karsten> cool.
14:35:26 <irl> and i've been working on merging patches as they've appeared, so we don't have a large backlog
14:35:35 <irl> i think there are 6 patches i need to review at the moment
14:35:57 <karsten> speaking of patches, do you want to include an item in the monthly report?
14:36:21 <irl> there weren't any big changes this month afair
14:36:31 <karsten> ok.
14:36:42 <irl> we can say that there have been incremental updates or something like this
14:36:47 <irl> just one sentence
14:37:30 <karsten> hmm, not sure if that helps.
14:37:42 <karsten> there have been incremental updates to other code bases, too.
14:37:56 <irl> if it's normally not mentioned, then i would leave it out this month
14:38:01 <iwakeh> Usually we try to only include finished things.
14:38:05 <irl> yep, that's fine
14:38:10 <karsten> okay.
14:38:41 <karsten> cool. please bring up the release plan again when there are fewer distractions.
14:38:48 <irl> will do
14:39:09 <karsten> great! shall we move on?
14:39:16 <irl> yep
14:39:23 <karsten> - webstats migration to CollecTor: sync or not to sync? (iwakeh)
14:39:43 <karsten> I lean towards not sync.
14:39:53 <iwakeh> hmm,
14:39:57 <iwakeh> why not?
14:40:00 <karsten> sync is most important for relay descriptors where we'd lose data if an instance fails.
14:40:15 <karsten> mostly because of the added effort. if it's easy, sure, put it in.
14:40:24 <iwakeh> Well, but we the web-stats will be important, too.
14:40:33 <karsten> but we'll likely only have a single collector instance scrubbing webstats.
14:40:44 <iwakeh> And, third party operators might be interested.
14:40:47 <karsten> and if that fails for a few days, it will just catch up, right?
14:41:07 <iwakeh> will it?
14:41:41 <karsten> how does the current webstats host get its data?
14:41:48 <iwakeh> These logs are quite interesting and the sync-functionality is not too complicated anymore.
14:42:05 <iwakeh> folders.
14:42:13 <iwakeh> file-system
14:42:24 <iwakeh> as far as the code says.
14:42:25 <karsten> yes, but how do the original logs find their way to the host?
14:42:28 <karsten> rsync?
14:42:41 <karsten> anyway, details.
14:42:51 <karsten> just saying that sync will not be as critical as for relaydescs.
14:43:02 <karsten> where being offline for an hour means missing a consensus and nine votes.
14:43:06 <iwakeh> true, if anything unforseen makes it
14:43:14 <iwakeh> more complicated I'll drop it.
14:43:19 <karsten> sounds good.
14:43:33 <karsten> I also sent you sample data.
14:43:38 <karsten> original data.
14:43:45 <karsten> sanitized logs are on webstats.tpo.
14:43:47 <iwakeh> cool :-)
14:43:55 <iwakeh> it just arrived
14:44:02 <karsten> great!
14:44:06 <iwakeh> I have these.
14:44:15 <iwakeh> the clean ones.
14:44:24 <iwakeh> that's all here.
14:44:26 <karsten> okay.
14:44:38 <karsten> moving on then?
14:44:43 <iwakeh> sure.
14:44:48 <karsten> - Collecting input for monthly report (karsten)
14:44:52 <karsten> this time of the month again.
14:45:02 <karsten> I started putting some items on the pad.
14:45:10 <iwakeh> Switch there?
14:45:12 <karsten> but I didn't go through my inbox or trac yet.
14:45:22 <karsten> sure, we can briefly switch to the pad.
14:45:34 * karsten puts on elevator music here..
14:45:40 <iwakeh> hehe
14:45:52 <iwakeh> there are ascii notes
14:46:17 <karsten> nice! :)
14:46:27 <irl> ♩♩♩♬
14:46:43 <iwakeh> :-)
14:46:43 <karsten> (for the elevator music)
14:46:50 <irl> sorry if i crashed anyone's irc client
14:47:05 <karsten> ah, you didn't. just looked confused: ???? ;)
14:47:16 <iwakeh> makes a strange sound ...
14:47:21 <irl> heh
14:52:16 <karsten> #music off
14:52:17 <iwakeh> music off.
14:52:23 <karsten> okay!
14:52:24 <iwakeh> you were faster.
14:52:27 <karsten> heh
14:52:35 <karsten> next item?
14:52:47 <iwakeh> yes.
14:52:51 <karsten> - metrics-lib 1.8.0/1.9.0 release
14:53:19 <karsten> see the large patch I dropped on trac yesterday night.
14:53:34 <iwakeh> yes, trying to read through ...
14:53:46 <arthuredelstein> GeKo: I'm back. Is there anything you'd like me to focus on right now?
14:54:10 <karsten> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/query?milestone=^metrics-lib+1.8.0&or&milestone=^metrics-lib+1.9.0
14:54:35 <karsten> should we go through that list at some point?
14:54:48 <iwakeh> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/query?milestone=^metrics-lib+1.8.0&or&milestone=^metrics-lib+1.9.0&group=milestone&col=id&col=summary&col=milestone&col=owner&col=type&col=status&col=priority&order=priority
14:54:55 <iwakeh> group by milestone
14:55:21 <iwakeh> Maybe, just see how much is done
14:55:29 <iwakeh> next week, Monday?
14:55:45 <karsten> sounds good!
14:56:06 <iwakeh> By mail?
14:56:27 <karsten> or shall we have a quick meeting on monday just for this? 30 min?
14:56:36 <iwakeh> sure.
14:56:42 <karsten> 14:30 utc?
14:57:10 <iwakeh> Monday is Pentacostl (pfingsten).
14:57:20 <karsten> oh.
14:57:21 <iwakeh> Tuesday?
14:57:31 <GeKo> arthuredelstein: see backlog in #tor-project as there is a meeting here
14:57:42 <karsten> that's close to the planned release date on wednesday.
14:57:43 <iwakeh> same time?
14:57:50 <karsten> shall we try email first then?
14:57:51 <iwakeh> or earlier.
14:57:57 <iwakeh> yes, all fine.
14:58:04 <karsten> okay!
14:58:17 <iwakeh> I'll try to check
14:58:40 <karsten> great!
14:58:45 <iwakeh> if tasks are clearly in mine or your 'field'.
14:58:55 <iwakeh> By Friday.
14:59:27 <karsten> okay.
14:59:39 <karsten> anything else for today?
14:59:47 <iwakeh> I'm fine.
15:00:35 <karsten> okay. 30 minutes for the weekly meeting. great! let's talk more next week!
15:00:39 <karsten> bye, bye!
15:00:49 <karsten> (and via email/tract)
15:00:51 <karsten> trac*
15:00:55 <iwakeh> bye, bye.  :-)
15:01:03 <karsten> #endmeeting