16:01:30 <isabela> #startmeeting ux team meeting 16:01:30 <MeetBot> Meeting started Wed Nov 8 16:01:30 2017 UTC. The chair is isabela. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:01:30 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:01:45 <isabela> #topic ux team roadmap! 16:01:52 <isabela> :) 16:01:55 <isabela> better 16:02:08 <antonela> we should say hi again just to keep our selfs as humans! haha 16:02:08 <isabela> alright 16:02:13 <isabela> hehehe 16:02:32 <hiro> hi 16:02:42 <antonela> hola! 16:02:42 <isabela> so i started a draft of a roadmap: 16:02:44 <isabela> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ELMvnIksL-m_r0vJt_rwpIkcjyzZpCyYiQJO1PveRZM/edit#gid=0 16:02:54 <isabela> it has: 16:03:00 <isabela> 1. items from yesterday support site plan 16:03:17 <isabela> 2. items from otf design proposal (work we will do with tb team) 16:03:36 <isabela> 3. iteams i saw on other teams roadmaps that we should consider 16:03:49 <isabela> it goes only till march 16:03:54 <isabela> it does not have! 16:04:06 <isabela> 1. items from sida proposal (has some, not all) 16:04:25 <isabela> 2. tor browser mobile work that will happen in 2018 16:04:39 * isabela is done 16:04:53 <isabela> please check it out and share thoughts etc 16:05:53 <antonela> last night I was looking into the teams roadmaps and I separated the tasks I could/want to help with 16:06:01 <antonela> mostly all what you listed lol 16:06:04 <isabela> hehe 16:06:10 <isabela> please add anything i missed! 16:06:41 <hiro> the only part i am concerned about is making atlas part of tor metrics 16:07:03 <antonela> for me mostly website / metrics team / TTB UI 16:07:06 <hiro> because tor metrics website is on language and atlas is another one 16:07:26 <hiro> so things can not quite add up 16:07:33 <isabela> i think irl will code that but we should reach out to them to learn more 16:07:34 <hiro> unless we just want to make them look the same 16:07:55 <hiro> s/on language/one language/ 16:08:15 <isabela> lets add an to do item to follow up on that with them 16:08:44 <isabela> #action reach out to metrics team to learn more about atlas being part of metrics site 16:09:05 <isabela> hiro: do you want to take that? 16:09:18 <hiro> yep 16:09:22 <isabela> tx 16:09:38 <isabela> so another thing here 16:09:44 <isabela> sida has one billion surveys :P 16:09:53 <hiro> also line 22.. what shall we do? 16:09:59 <isabela> so surveylime thing will be an item that eventually will need to exist 16:10:04 <isabela> but i think that is 2018 stuff 16:10:16 <hiro> ah that is ongoing already so we will have time to test it in december 16:10:22 <isabela> awesome 16:10:44 <hiro> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/23669#comment:2 16:10:51 <hiro> that's the ticket 16:10:54 <isabela> (lets make sure we document it on services roadmap too) 16:10:58 <hiro> so I am waiting for the VM 16:11:06 <isabela> got it 16:11:29 <hiro> I meant to ask for line 22.. the TB mobile thingy :) 16:11:40 <isabela> antonela: how you feeling about the roadmap? any concerns or questions? 16:11:42 <hiro> what is it involved there? 16:11:54 <isabela> oh 16:12:08 <isabela> i guess i just added you to follow for now 16:12:16 <isabela> i dont think that is any specific tasks for you on that 16:12:34 <antonela> I'm excited 16:12:51 <isabela> we sent offers for folks for this team 16:12:57 <isabela> so ppl might start in december 16:13:03 <hiro> ah ok :) I was like I can break mobile apps, but haven't coded much up to now 16:13:09 <isabela> we should sit with them and see how we can help migrating experience to mobile 16:13:16 <isabela> hiro: lol 16:13:23 <isabela> well break is good! 16:13:29 <isabela> give us bugs ;) 16:13:46 <isabela> one thing tho 16:13:57 <isabela> is the download flow in the webpage 16:14:07 <isabela> since the websites will be responsive design 16:14:28 <isabela> we could have a flow for mobile based on the screensize css is being used 16:14:53 <isabela> so i think would be cool to be at that kickoff meeting 16:14:56 <hiro> yep that we can 16:15:12 <hiro> also we can decide to hide/show certain things only w media queries 16:15:13 <antonela> yes sure 16:15:19 <isabela> yep 16:15:29 <isabela> we have a graphic showing an example of behavior 16:15:33 <isabela> let me get the photo 16:15:40 <antonela> i can mockup 3/4 size versions. Components are resposive inside sketch so its the way to show the flow 16:16:25 <antonela> mobile / tablet / desktop / large screens 16:17:06 <isabela> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/Website/MainSiteRedesign#DownloadFlow 16:17:44 <isabela> something like this ^^ 16:18:05 <isabela> hehe 16:18:23 * isabela is such a great artist :P 16:18:44 * antonela agreed 16:19:23 <antonela> we could have a prototype showing the flow on mobile and showing the flow on desktop 16:19:31 <isabela> things will start to be more and more integrated.. like a feature we build for TB desktop will have to work on mobile screen 16:19:48 <isabela> antonela: that would be cool 16:19:55 <antonela> this is the primary objective of Marvel, having a clickeable prototype 16:20:02 <isabela> so, we should start adding items for the other sites in there 16:20:12 <isabela> the thing is that i gave 1 yaer in the sida proposal for building these sites 16:20:26 <isabela> mainly because i know content will take time and translation too 16:21:11 <isabela> i have on my list to read the sida proposal again to remember everything hehe 16:21:22 <isabela> and look into how to start adding that stuff here 16:21:57 <stephw> so cool — i want to be helpful but i am not sure where to jump in, and unsure how this relates to the efforts to update the old site 16:22:30 <isabela> stephw: yes! would be great to have you as reviewer and of course i hope content comes from comms team :) 16:22:41 <isabela> so i will add you/comms as our dependencies 16:22:47 <stephw> okay great 16:23:00 <antonela> isa: are research tasks somewhere? or are they living inside each main task ticket? 16:23:41 <isabela> antonela: yes they should be children tickets of the main one (or like if they are for support.tpo portal, under that tickete) 16:23:46 <isabela> *ticket 16:24:09 <isabela> all these steps of our work should be documented 16:24:18 <isabela> this way ppl will also learn how we work :) 16:24:33 <antonela> perfect, i have the SIDA proposal open and you gave room for testing there, so i just want to have room irl for it 16:24:41 <antonela> yes exactly 16:25:43 <isabela> #action add SIDA tasks that are missing 16:26:10 <isabela> #action add stephw/comms as reviewer/dependencies for ux team on website redesign tasks 16:26:14 <isabela> what else? 16:26:24 <isabela> #action antonela create research tickets 16:27:31 <isabela> i think we keep working on this roadmap but we could already start sharing it with other teams 16:27:34 <isabela> what do you think? 16:27:46 <antonela> yes sure 16:28:13 <hiro> +1 16:28:18 <isabela> cool 16:28:42 <isabela> i will do it 16:29:05 <isabela> also another step for me is to update it with all the correct tickets etc 16:29:21 <isabela> #action isa update roadmap with tickets 16:29:36 <isabela> if you have tickets please add them too :) 16:30:08 <isabela> hiro: btw i got the app installed 16:30:15 <hiro> ah cool 16:30:20 <isabela> hiro: let me know if you want me to create a project etc 16:30:23 <isabela> to test stuff for you 16:30:27 <hiro> how are you finding it? 16:30:36 <hiro> can you clone the repository from oniongit? 16:30:37 <isabela> well so far so good but i cant really do a lot 16:30:40 <hiro> it should be public 16:30:42 <isabela> i need a project 16:30:48 <isabela> i will try it! 16:30:52 <isabela> i havent done that yet 16:31:05 <hiro> shall I send instruction to everyone? 16:31:25 <isabela> that would be cool 16:31:28 <hiro> The idea is to clone the repository and see if you find it easy to make modification and push... 16:31:30 <isabela> can you add stephw to that too? 16:31:33 <hiro> sure 16:31:40 <isabela> she should be part of the testing group :) 16:31:52 <isabela> and t0mmy 16:32:06 <antonela> isa: once you have tickets in place, I'll check which tickets require research and I'll start to work creating them. Is that ok? Maybe next week? 16:32:18 <isabela> perfect 16:32:24 <isabela> i ping you when i do 16:32:28 <antonela> cool 16:32:35 <stephw> :) 16:34:46 <isabela> stephw: you should follow this roadmap because it will always have items related to visible changes in the product 16:35:26 <stephw> alright — where is it? 16:35:36 <isabela> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ELMvnIksL-m_r0vJt_rwpIkcjyzZpCyYiQJO1PveRZM/edit#gid=0 16:36:00 <stephw> thanks :) 16:36:23 <isabela> to plan comms around user education about them 16:38:59 <isabela> whoever owns the support site (not sure if it will stay with community team or go to tb team) should also follow it for updating the articles whenever there are features experience changes 16:40:26 <isabela> ok 16:40:31 <isabela> anything else ppl? 16:41:07 <hiro> not from my side 16:41:12 <antonela> not me 16:41:20 <isabela> then i will end the bot 16:41:25 <isabela> ! 16:41:31 <isabela> #endmeeting