20:03:28 #startmeeting moat + tor launcher 20:03:28 Meeting started Wed Dec 20 20:03:28 2017 UTC. The chair is isabela. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:03:28 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:03:35 alright! 20:04:03 we have a few bugs to cover 20:04:17 isis: do you want to share udpates on those tickets we mentioned in the email 20:04:34 maybe we can start with the one mcs sent 20:05:10 #24636 and #24637? 20:05:32 or #24689 20:05:37 #24432 20:07:19 oh, i had actually forgotten about that one, oops 20:07:53 there's something funny happening with the last layer of redirection between apache and the moat server 20:08:31 i added more logging to the server, so now i should be able to go see what's actually being requested and why it's not found 20:09:28 i guess my question would be 20:09:56 realistic speaking with holidays and everything else, how are we with the server side 20:10:34 because i dont even know how much time mcs has on their side 20:10:45 giving they need to still get this on alpha etc 20:11:00 do we have a date for the alpha? 20:11:45 on our side, we are about ready to put the code out for review. we have a few loose ends but they can be handled via followup tickets. 20:12:13 we would really like a server that people can test against though! 20:12:53 yes, so my question is, to have something we can test 20:13:03 and the time to do it so 20:13:55 so make it not listen through meek, or just fix the current tunneling? 20:14:27 i would prefer if we can have somethign that is in a build by end of jan 20:14:39 i dont know what is necessary on server side for it to be working 20:14:46 gk has the exact date for the next Tor Browser alpha, but I think it is mid-January 20:14:47 what is left on these bugs to do it 20:14:55 yes is mid jan 20:15:52 jan 23 is the release of alpha 8.0a1 20:16:16 and the idea was to have it working on that at least 20:16:21 I’d strongly prefer we make things work over meek if possible since we have coded it that way inside Tor Launcher ;) 20:16:23 so we can test stuff too 20:16:29 so it looks like just fixing the redirections for #24432 and specifying what moat does if it doesn't have enough bridges #24637 and fixing what it does if there are no bridges 20:16:55 I don’t think I can ask people to review our client code without something to use it with on the server side…. 20:17:17 yeah 20:17:38 so thinking of that, to give people tiem to review etc and then having time to get it in the release etc 20:17:54 we are running pretty close ere 20:17:58 *here 20:18:13 i think i can get it done before i leave friday 20:18:31 That would be very awesome! 20:18:39 ok, but in case you cant, what would be a plan b? 20:18:50 i just want to make sure we plan for it 20:20:00 uh… plan b would be either find someone else to do it, or wait until i come back on 3 january (i think… i don't actually have a return flight yet) 20:20:08 Also, is there anything that needs to happen on the deployment side for BridgeDB? We have never used meek in front of it before, right? 20:20:44 isis: i dont think we can find someone else to do it tho, not now at this time. but i think if you wuold be able to do it when you are back that could be plan b 20:20:45 (maybe something can be done in parallel if some infrastructure setup needs to be done by someone who is not Isis) 20:21:11 it it has never used meek before , no 20:21:38 but it's already set up 20:22:06 OK. I wasn’t sure if that was “real stuff” but that is good news. 20:22:13 (as described on #24432 and #16650) 20:22:17 So it is a simple matter of writing some code :) 20:22:45 (after debugging I guess) 20:23:17 one bad thing is that it means BridgeDB now requires a maintainer who can do Twisted Python and Golang 20:23:25 which probably isn't the most common of skill combos 20:23:27 isis: how we catch up on friday before you leave to know how things are going? 20:24:12 FYI, brade and I will be afk on Friday and we will only be available a little next week 20:24:20 But we will check email. 20:24:20 yes 20:24:36 i will be away too i have an appointment with immigration that day 20:24:46 i will be afk friday as well, but i could be around a little bit 20:24:54 but i just want to have the right expectations for january 20:25:02 because if this is not done 20:25:11 and we will have to figure out what to do in january 20:25:13 i can send out an update tomorrow night via email, or just tagging everyone in irc 20:25:26 email would be better 20:25:30 please send via email since I may not be on IRC :) 20:25:39 okay! will do 20:25:42 thx 20:25:58 isis: i would appreciate over communication on it because it will help me understand what to expect for january 20:26:31 definitely 20:26:39 thank you 20:26:56 sorry for the rush right before the holidays 20:27:16 i had completely forgotten that #24432 still had a problem :/ 20:28:47 Maybe you will have time for #24636 and #24637 as well? I think those should be straightforward to fix. 20:28:52 (one i just a spec change) 20:28:57 s/i/is/ 20:29:37 yeah, those should be easy 20:30:34 cool - so you will look over these 3 tickets and get back to us via email during the rest of the week 20:32:03 oh, the reason for #24637 that it only ever returned 1 bridge to kathy wis that if it doesn't have enough bridges total (i'm assuming you only generated 200 descriptors) then it tries to cut down on the amount it hands out per request 20:32:17 it does that for all the distributors, not just moat 20:32:30 ah, okay. makes sense. 20:32:38 on a normal system with thousands of bridges it'll hand out three 20:32:42 so we should be prepared to handle 3, usually? 20:32:48 (or N I suppose) 20:32:50 yep! 20:32:57 OK 20:33:06 we can set it to a different number if we want, there's a config option 20:33:46 Our client code only uses the first one at the moment but we will fix that soon. 20:34:26 oh okay cool 20:36:43 was there anything else to catch up on? 20:37:07 not from me, not sure if mcs has any other questions 20:37:26 I am good for now. 20:37:34 It is exciting to see this come together! 20:37:42 cool! 20:37:47 i will stop the bot then 20:37:53 #endmeeting