15:58:37 <flexlibris> #startmeeting 15:58:37 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Jan 14 15:58:37 2019 UTC. The chair is flexlibris. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:58:37 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:58:53 <flexlibris> is Phoul here? his items are first on the roadmap 16:00:28 <flexlibris> okay, let's skip him for now 16:00:36 <flexlibris> ggus, do you want to update us on outreach and sponsor 9 stuff 16:00:42 <ggus> sure! 16:01:16 <ggus> i got my visa from india approved! and discovered that as brazilian i don't need visa to indonesia :) 16:01:36 <ggus> i sent this trip itinerary for approval to travel@tpo last week 16:02:10 <ggus> i had a meeting last friday defining our itinerary and this week i will work on our agenda details. 16:02:36 * kushal is here now 16:02:38 <emmapeel> ey oops 16:02:43 <ggus> indonesia outreach is going well. we will need to see who is going with me. 16:03:20 <emmapeel> i volunteer to go if people finds it suitable 16:03:20 <flexlibris> i thought pili was thinking about going? 16:03:31 <flexlibris> i don't see why not 16:03:33 <ggus> flexlibris: yes, only to india 16:04:05 <ggus> i'm still waiting approval from travel@tpo 16:04:05 <flexlibris> ggus could emmapeel do this with you? 16:04:19 <ggus> flexlibris: i think we need to ask ux team, but yes! 16:04:28 <flexlibris> yeah of course 16:04:42 <flexlibris> but it looks like it works from our side 16:04:50 <flexlibris> so then i will leave it to you two to coordinate with ux :) 16:04:58 <ggus> okay 16:05:09 <emmapeel> ok 16:05:13 <flexlibris> anything else ggus? 16:05:17 <flexlibris> on this topic i mean 16:05:17 <ggus> yes 16:05:20 <flexlibris> okay sure 16:05:50 <ggus> last week a free software advocate published in his youtube channel an interview with me about tor project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpBFqSa1zXo 16:07:01 <flexlibris> cool! 16:07:09 <flexlibris> did you let stephw know about this? 16:07:11 <pili> Hi 16:07:18 <wayward> o/ 16:07:20 <ggus> apparently, youtube is blocking the possibility to promote this content. sergio reported that youtube is saying the content is "schocking" 16:07:31 <antonela> wow 16:07:33 <ggus> i never heard about this before. 16:07:36 <stephw> wow 16:07:42 <flexlibris> who is being blocked? 16:07:43 <emmapeel> you can get flagged by bots 16:07:52 <flexlibris> i mean like is it just brazilian IPs? 16:08:01 <ggus> you can't promote the content with money 16:08:17 <flexlibris> it works for me in tor 16:09:05 <ggus> do you know promoted content in twitter? in youtube they have the same business model 16:09:16 <ggus> and it doesn't let do this only in this video. 16:09:22 <flexlibris> ohhh i understand what you mean now 16:09:27 <flexlibris> wow 16:09:37 <ggus> (sorry, i forgot some words in english) 16:09:41 <flexlibris> no you got them right 16:09:48 <flexlibris> i just thought when you said promote you meant just like, sharing it 16:09:52 <flexlibris> not the paid promotion 16:09:57 <antonela> nono paid promotions 16:10:00 <antonela> that 16:10:17 <ggus> so i wonder what happens if we try to paid promote one of our contents 16:10:19 <flexlibris> the podcast host should dispute that with youtube 16:10:22 <ggus> what will happen 16:10:48 * gman999 listening but in and out 16:10:50 <ggus> i'll write to him this afternoon. he told me this morning 16:10:52 <kushal> ggus, nice, we should interview you during India trip. 16:11:24 * gman999 bolsonaro and modi, sitting in a tree 16:11:26 <ggus> two more things 16:12:03 <ggus> based on the last meeting feedback, i opened a wiki page to USP volunteers: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/teams/CommunityTeam/Projects/GlobalSouth/USPVolunteers (WIP) 16:12:44 <ggus> and cryptorave will open their call for activities today. i'll send the link to global south mailing list. 16:12:53 <ggus> (done) 16:13:05 <flexlibris> so cryptorave is still going to happen in brazil this year? 16:14:01 <cy63113> yes! 16:14:04 <antonela> ggus that is great, thanks for putting it together! 16:14:32 <flexlibris> cool, glad to hear that it's still happening 16:14:39 <wayward> yeah that's so awesome ggus 16:14:47 <emmapeel> brave also 16:14:50 <flexlibris> i was worried about it going forward in the political environment 16:14:52 <flexlibris> exactly emmapeel 16:15:10 <ggus> yep, the gov will need to censor it, bc we aren't going to do that by ourselves :P 16:15:25 <kat5> ggus +100000000000000 16:15:54 <flexlibris> awesome 16:15:58 <flexlibris> okay, kat5, want to go next? 16:16:29 * antonela raises hand 16:16:31 <kat5> Sure. I expect to deliver an initial draft of report 2 to gaba today. And also to one or more network team members for an accuracy check. 16:16:36 <flexlibris> si antonela 16:17:05 * kushal raises hand to stand in the queue. 16:17:13 <flexlibris> kat5, glad to hear it's coming along 16:17:46 <kat5> We are starting to have sponsor 19 meetings, so that will be good for determining next steps. 16:17:57 <kat5> Done. 16:18:11 <flexlibris> cool, thanks kat5 16:18:16 <flexlibris> antonela did you want to say something? 16:18:21 <antonela> yess 16:18:22 <antonela> i'm working on the outreach material for this year. flexlibris and ggus already worked on the content, so i'm working on the design now! 16:18:30 <flexlibris> yay 16:18:33 <wayward> NICE 16:18:35 <antonela> i'm following this idea about to have a A3 canvas, folded twice, which will give us a pampphlet on one side and a poster/stencil on the other 16:18:38 <flexlibris> i am also working on the copy for the community portal 16:18:45 <antonela> Im playing with glitches for the covers, still wip, but you can see some progress here 16:18:45 <antonela> https://share.riseup.net/#ywt0RvTzZyHscBS8OnXJfg 16:18:45 <antonela> https://share.riseup.net/#dQYgHexQC2jKBaVpvZUkPg 16:19:00 <flexlibris> i love them 16:19:14 <antonela> about the content strictly, i'm wondering how deep we should go explaining encryption layers, i think that will be useful for end users to have more info about how it affects them directly, we can see it with stephw once she reviews the content 16:19:16 <wayward> omg I love these 16:19:21 <antonela> *_____* 16:19:27 <antonela> still wip, just putting some ideas together 16:19:43 <flexlibris> antonela yeah let's see how the draft content looks when you finish the design, and then take it from there 16:19:52 <flexlibris> maybe we can have one version with more advanced explanations 16:20:11 <antonela> super, thanks! just wanted to give updates related with it here, since 1. involve this team 2. makes me work on it a little everyweek :) 16:20:22 <flexlibris> yes :) we appreciate you 16:20:23 <stephw> and we’ll also see a version of what it looks like to try and not use all caps TOR 16:20:30 <stephw> yes thank you :D 16:20:55 <flexlibris> kushal did you want to say something? 16:21:17 <kushal> Called Jace (from Hasgeek in Bangalore), we will get their office for venue, and they will also help us to find more local activists there. Someone from their team will reply us back tomorrow or day after. We still have to reply back to the Pune person with our details (he asked a few questions). 16:21:45 <kushal> I will ping ggus after the meeting for the detailed mail to the IITB in Mumbai for the event. 16:21:51 <ggus> kushal: yes! :D 16:21:53 <kushal> <EOF> 16:22:06 <flexlibris> cool thanks kushal, i dont see that on the january roadmap so can you add an item under outreach? 16:22:11 <flexlibris> i think it didnt get updated from december 16:22:27 <kushal> flexlibris, ah, okay, I missed it, I will update. Thanks for reminding. 16:22:35 <flexlibris> no worries 16:22:47 <flexlibris> okay next on the roadmap is volunteers 16:22:52 <flexlibris> wayward do you have any updates? 16:22:56 <wayward> yep! 16:23:16 <wayward> so, I didn't get as far with the Tor v VPN doc as I wanted, but it's still coming along 16:23:24 <wayward> BUT the volunteer planning meeting went really well! 16:23:44 <wayward> I got a good idea of what sort of tasks the different teams need from volunteers, as well as time commitments, etc 16:24:31 <wayward> I'm still not sure what the best way to organize tasks for volunteers is, but I think we'll need to incorporate some trac modules in the support/volunteer portal, so I will bring that up in the next support portal meeting 16:25:11 <wayward> otherwise it seems like the consensus was that there's not much we can do until we have the new site 16:25:46 <flexlibris> when you say support/volunteer portal, what are you referring to? 16:25:55 <flexlibris> i think that leaving the centralization part for the community portal is good 16:26:01 <wayward> the volunteer content on the community portal 16:26:12 <wayward> sorry, I keep mixing up community portal & support portal 16:26:19 <flexlibris> that's okay :) 16:26:38 <flexlibris> so i think we do not want to link to trac from that portal. we want things to just exist on the website. 16:26:43 <flexlibris> that is my own feeling about it anyway 16:26:57 <flexlibris> but don't worry about that. the community portal is getting staged right now so hopefully it won't be too long before it's done. 16:27:06 <flexlibris> and then there will be a nice central location for volunteers 16:27:20 <wayward> ok! it seemed like other teams valued trac thought so I think we'll need to come up with a compromise or with multiple solutions 16:27:33 <wayward> ok cool!! 16:28:04 <wayward> that's it for me :) 16:28:05 <flexlibris> my impression was that people wanted to use the bugtracker for tasks, but what you just said above made it sound like you would be hosting some content or instructions or something on trac that would link to the community portal. maybe i am misunderstanding. 16:28:23 <wayward> ah what I mean is sort of what the metrics team currently has on their volunteer page 16:28:38 <flexlibris> is that on trac? 16:28:39 <wayward> which is like a little box that updates to show current trac tickets that can be worked on 16:28:43 <emmapeel> link? 16:28:50 <wayward> just a sec 16:30:10 <flexlibris> this? https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/teams/MetricsTeam#OpenTickets 16:30:35 <wayward> yes! thank you 16:30:52 <wayward> so maybe that, combined with meetings & roadmaps 16:31:25 <flexlibris> ah okay. so i am not opposed to linking to specific tickets, i just didnt want us to link back to like, the team wikis. instructions for volunteering should be hosted on the community portal itself. 16:31:34 <wayward> sounds good! 16:31:44 <flexlibris> but also, i thought there was some consensus in that meeting that "easy" tagged tickets do not actually work for attracting new volunteers? 16:31:51 <wayward> yep! 16:31:59 <wayward> so I do think we need a combination solution 16:32:02 <flexlibris> and that instead we wanted to have clear instructions for joining the meetings and things 16:32:49 <flexlibris> okay cool, i trust your judgment! 16:33:07 <wayward> we can discuss more somewhere else, I don't want to take up too much space here 16:33:32 <flexlibris> sure sounds good 16:33:37 <flexlibris> anything else on this topic? 16:33:44 <wayward> nope, all done! 16:34:09 <flexlibris> awesome, thanks wayward 16:34:17 <flexlibris> emmapeel, localization is next on the roadmap, do you have any updates? 16:36:59 <flexlibris> maybe we lost emma? let's move on to the support and community portals updates for now 16:37:02 <emmapeel> hmmmnope 16:37:05 <flexlibris> oh sorry :) 16:37:09 <emmapeel> sorry computer is acting up 16:37:14 <flexlibris> no prob 16:38:14 <flexlibris> okay so i am working on the community portal copy as i already mentioned. so this means that very soon we will have the portal staged, with text and with outreach materials. next to work on is the training materials, but we probably won't get to those this month with everythign else going on. 16:38:29 <flexlibris> anyone else have support and community portal updates on these roadmap items? 16:38:46 <emmapeel> iam busy with the glossary and will hook up the tpo page to transifex after that 16:38:51 <flexlibris> nice 16:38:58 <pili> maybe a reminder to reply to the illustrations poll :) 16:39:04 <pili> to those that received the email 16:39:09 <flexlibris> yes yes 16:39:12 <flexlibris> i already did :) 16:39:14 <ggus> pili: already voted! :) 16:39:25 <emmapeel> metoo 16:39:36 <pili> thanks! :) 16:39:36 <flexlibris> thanks everyone for getting on that so quickly 16:39:41 <pili> I hadn't checked :D 16:39:45 <flexlibris> we will have our regular meeting about the community portal this friday yes? 16:39:59 <wayward> what time is it at again? 16:41:06 <flexlibris> i think it's at 1500 utc? 16:41:57 <flexlibris> okay onward 16:41:57 <antonela> yes, 15utc 16:42:10 <flexlibris> LFI stuff is all still ongoing, doing recruitment and curriculum development, working on the website changes 16:42:19 <flexlibris> talking to the fundraising team about new $ 16:42:33 <flexlibris> miscellanous stuff -- did everyone get their feedback to Pili about the DRL funding? 16:42:58 <ggus> yes, i brainstormed some itens last week, i'll wrote a proposal this week 16:43:01 <emmapeel> not really. i need to llok onto that 16:43:12 <pili> flexlibris: yes about the community portal meeting 16:43:16 <pili> I'll send a reminder email 16:43:24 <flexlibris> great 16:44:04 <flexlibris> also, i forgot to mention but if anyone is in this meeting or lurking and wants to do some stuff with the community team, the roadmap items that are languishing could really use attention -- especially stuff for the support and community portals 16:44:09 <flexlibris> and answering community team tickts 16:44:30 <flexlibris> unless Phoul showed up unnoticed, there is nothing else to update on the roadmap 16:44:35 <flexlibris> anyone else have anything to discuss? 16:45:37 <antonela> im good 16:45:40 <emmapeel> cri cri 16:45:52 <flexlibris> is that a cricket sound lol 16:45:53 <antonela> emmapeel: lets talk about thailand tomorrow during the ux meeting 16:46:04 <emmapeel> antonela: ok! 16:46:08 <flexlibris> you mean indonesia? 16:46:17 <emmapeel> yes a cricket 16:46:20 <flexlibris> or is thailand maybe still happening 16:46:24 <antonela> sorry, indonesia, yes 16:46:29 <flexlibris> :) 16:46:31 <emmapeel> i rea inonesia : 16:46:36 <emmapeel> i read indonesia 16:46:38 <flexlibris> emma is ready to go anywhere 16:46:43 <antonela> lol 16:46:51 <flexlibris> cool, okay, i will kill the bot then. have a great week everyone! 16:46:53 <flexlibris> #endmeeting