18:58:59 #startmeeting tor-browser-release 02/27 18:58:59 Meeting started Wed Feb 27 18:58:59 2019 UTC. The chair is pili. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:58:59 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:59:15 how's everyone today? :) 18:59:34 sleepy 18:59:51 pospeselr: I hear you ;) I'm ending my day soon enough though :P 18:59:55 so, we have a release pending for now-ish? how's that going? :) 19:00:06 I'm guessing it's not going to happen today 19:00:20 are we on track for the end of the week or do we think it's going to move to next week? 19:00:22 no 19:00:28 not sure yet 19:00:44 it depends mostly on sisbell and sysrqb :) 19:00:49 no pressure :) 19:01:02 yeah 19:01:17 any updates sysrqb or sisbell would like to share? Any way the rest of the team can help? 19:01:34 i cut down my expectations and think there are 3 tickets blocking the next alpha 19:01:48 ok, let's review the list I have 19:01:52 #28685 which is basically done and is no blocker 19:02:02 (in the sense that we are waiting on someone) 19:02:18 then we h ave #28329 19:02:37 and we have #27609 and child tickets 19:02:52 the alpha won't ship without those three fixed 19:03:08 as there is no much of a point 19:03:13 agreed 19:03:28 at which point do we decide to just wait for the March release instead? 19:03:43 that's the 19th March release 19:03:48 re: 28329 -- i tested the apk sysrqb sent to me this week, looks great as a first iteration, we need to review some ui details on it 19:04:09 yeah, it's crashing for me though :( 19:04:16 pili: i think end of next week 19:04:27 my plan is to run TBA usability testing during IFF, if the release comes at the estimated deadlines 19:04:40 GeKo: sounds good 19:04:41 iff is in april, right? 19:04:44 antonela: that'd be great 19:04:46 yeah, first week 19:04:55 ack 19:05:17 we will have a table, people can join us, really targeted users for us (journalists, researchers, activitst) 19:06:15 back to this release, will #28802 make it in to TBA-a3? 19:07:06 good question 19:07:45 i saw in the work done by sysrqb in #28329 that the bridge dialog offers the option to choose obfs4 bridges 19:08:04 so, i'd say, yes, we should get that into as well 19:08:11 not sure via which ticket 19:08:17 great! I'll keep in my list then 19:08:28 it might be that #28802 got solved by one of the other 2 19:08:35 but i'd need to double check 19:09:00 and the last one i had on my list from before was #29238 19:09:10 (and other udpate tickets) 19:10:08 should be possible 19:10:35 ok, I'll keep it in also 19:10:59 sorry i'm late 19:11:12 antonela: maybe we can chat tomorrow? 19:11:23 ok, anything else to discuss about TBA-a3 19:11:24 sysrqb: yes sure! 19:11:28 o/ 19:11:35 we should have PT support with this release 19:11:42 but that also depends on tor-browser-build support 19:11:44 no worries sysrqb :) we're just wrapping up details on the TBA-a3 release 19:11:46 so i'm not sure where we are with that 19:11:54 the UI should support it 19:12:02 but those new binaries wil need to be bundled, too 19:12:09 which currently is not happening 19:12:40 i wonder why my changes are crashing for both GeKo and antonela :( 19:12:57 hopefully i get can some android logs from one of you 19:13:04 i mean, i tap [connect] and the app crash 19:13:12 that shouldn't happen :) 19:13:15 see log in ticket? 19:13:18 okey good to know 19:13:25 otherwise let me know what you need :) 19:13:26 i can give you my logs 19:13:37 oh! no, i didnt look 19:13:42 antonela: it's crashing for you as well? 19:14:00 yes 19:14:23 huh. what? 19:14:37 okay, i'll look at that, but those stack traces are weird. 19:15:01 how i can grab logs if the app get closed? maybe are they somewhere else not visible? 19:15:14 sysrqb: yeah :( 19:15:28 GeKo: i'll try running your build, maybe i can repo 19:15:42 but i build an apk for anto and it worked here, but crashed when she ran it 19:16:07 okay. we can chat more in #tor-dev later i guess 19:16:10 antonela: if you can run 'adb logcat' that will give you the logs 19:16:10 yup :) 19:16:11 yep 19:16:16 (to not hijcak the meeting...) 19:16:22 *hijack 19:16:22 andif not, then we can figure this out somehow :) 19:16:26 kk 19:16:53 ok, so after TBA-a3 we've got the security release 19:17:05 do we have any link showing the tickets we're planning for that? 19:17:24 whatever gets done until then :) 19:17:37 (so, no) 19:18:01 i don't track tickets per release (exceptions are the big ones like X.5 and X.0) 19:18:09 and i know i am late for 8.5 19:18:12 sure ;) 19:18:15 i hope to do that next week 19:18:23 but i want to get tba-a3 out first 19:18:39 let me know if I can help with that 19:18:54 ok, moving on 19:19:29 but looking at what we have and what is in the pipeline i think 19:19:29 does anyone have any release related items for discussion? 19:19:45 an openssl update, #29180, #28885 19:20:08 maybe #27210 19:20:08 ah, thanks for that! 19:20:15 I'll add to the provisional list 19:20:17 #29120 19:20:26 #27486 19:20:44 that's all alpha stuff 19:21:06 #27484 was reviewed today :) 19:21:08 i need to go over `tbb-backport` tickets to decide what to do for the next stable 19:21:24 yeah, we'll see 19:21:29 maybe that one as well 19:23:48 ok 19:23:50 great 19:24:00 did anyone have any other items for discussion then? :) 19:24:12 Otherwise I was thinking maybe we could discuss the F-droid situation and what we want to do going forward 19:24:39 I know we've had some discussion on the ticket about this, but we can take this opportunity to discuss further 19:25:48 the ticket is #27539 if anyone is interested 19:25:55 i think it's not bad with sysrqb's idea to just try it out directly 19:26:22 thinking about what _hc said i am skeptical that just running our tor-browser-build stuff would work out of the box 19:26:43 but, hey, we can iterate from that experience ;) 19:27:05 seems too easy :) 19:27:10 exactly 19:27:29 but i won't complain if it works 19:27:48 so, when do we want to try to start implementing this plan? 19:27:49 or no plans yet? 19:28:07 looking at the status update from sysrqb on monday 19:28:09 this week 19:28:20 which sounds not unreasonable to me 19:28:22 oh, nice 19:28:35 but that probably nepends on gotchas related to #28329 19:28:43 so it's possible for the 19th March release? 19:28:46 and the review progress of sisbell's work 19:28:48 yes 19:30:59 fingers crossed... 19:31:26 ok, anything else from anyone? 19:31:33 any special guests with special requests? 19:31:33 im groot 19:31:39 :) 19:32:19 ok, in that case, next release meeting will be on 13th of March at 19:00 UTC as usual 19:32:23 thanks everyone± 19:32:24 ! 19:32:34 o/ 19:32:34 #end-meeting 19:32:38 or #end 19:32:43 or #endmeeting 19:32:44 #end 19:32:46 ugh 19:32:48 (tired) 19:32:51 (said by the correct person) 19:32:51 #endmeeting