15:59:34 <ggus> #startmeeting Community Team meeting - 10/14/2019 15:59:34 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Oct 14 15:59:34 2019 UTC. The chair is ggus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:59:34 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:59:41 <ggus> hello folks! :) 15:59:50 <ggus> Community Team meeting starting now 16:00:15 <bluemoon> yay! :) 16:00:24 <ggus> here's our weekly pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-community-team-2019-keep 16:00:54 <ggus> please update with items that you've been working 16:02:33 <Highflyer910> hi all! :) 16:03:52 <ggus> hi Highflyer910, bluemoon :) 16:06:00 * bluemoon waves 16:06:20 <c1e0> o/ 16:07:01 <pili> hi 16:07:04 <pili> sorry, I'm here 16:07:09 <ggus> do we have new outreachy folks here? :) 16:08:29 <c1e0> reetika: ? 16:10:27 <bluemoon> well I am Outreachy but I was here last week too 16:11:40 <c1e0> I spoke to reetika earlier. She's new, I believe. She's online, but she may be on another tab. 16:11:59 <taffo> yes am a new outreachy applicant 16:12:34 <ggus> for those who arrived now, please fill this pad with your updates: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-community-team-2019-keep 16:12:37 <emmapeel> o/ 16:12:44 <ggus> and then we start in 2 minutes 16:14:17 <bluemoon> hi @taffo :) 16:14:57 <taffo> Hi @bluemoon 16:15:06 <bluemoon> just fyi today I am a bit distracted by a 5-year-old who is not at school because it's a holiday here 16:15:34 <ggus> nice :) 16:15:35 <c1e0> bluemoon: XD 16:15:54 <ggus> ok, let's start 16:16:12 <ggus> today we only have outreachy questions on our agenda 16:16:38 <pili> bluemoon: I feel you :) 16:17:10 <c1e0> ggus: Can I ask a question on a task I started and need help completing? 16:17:41 <ggus> c1e0: yes, sure 16:19:17 <c1e0> I need help with the second checkpoint of this issue: https://dip.torproject.org/torproject/web/community/issues/102 Can you please point me to a resource which will help? 16:19:33 <clash> did the meeting happen an hour early today? 16:19:58 <bluemoon> @clash this is community meeting 16:20:08 <c1e0> clash: Nah. That was another meeting. 16:20:57 <ggus> c1e0: the second item is the difficult one. because it doesn't exist somewehere and it needs to be written 16:21:10 <ggus> c1e0: what are the platforms missing these steps? 16:21:25 <clash> ah I had a weird time when the messages loaded but the time didn't 16:21:34 <clash> anyway, hi folks! 16:21:43 <ggus> hello, clash 16:22:04 <c1e0> ggus: Basically all of them. I haven't beeen able to find a legit answer for any. 16:22:58 <clash> hey ggus, I'm travelling this week but I was hoping we could complete the onion services section inconsistencies once and for all. 16:23:11 <ggus> c1e0: but for some of them it's already there, for example: https://community.torproject.org/relay/setup/guard/debianubuntu/ 16:23:16 <ggus> > 1. Enable Automatic Software Updates 16:23:25 <ggus> https://community.torproject.org/relay/setup/guard/debianubuntu/updates/ 16:23:42 <ggus> I think it's missing: openbsd, dragonfly, netbsd 16:24:24 <c1e0> @ggus: Ah, so that's what that meant. Here was I thinking it was going to be different. I suppose I can put more effort into finding the others now. Thanks! 16:25:22 <ggus> c1e0: i recommend you to ping gman999 and egypcio, they both are from TorBSD project and can help on this 16:25:57 <c1e0> ggus: Will do. Thank you. :D 16:26:56 <ggus> more questions? :) 16:27:12 <ggus> or things that you read about tor and it's not clear? 16:27:21 <bluemoon> So, I don'tr eally have anything specific. I did start looking at the issues but I realized I need to do way more reading before I can answer questions. 16:27:30 <bluemoon> I guess I'll start by reading the main docs 16:27:41 <bluemoon> and if we don't know the answers we can ask on IRC 16:27:58 <bluemoon> and you can point us to different people who know about specific topics as needed? 16:28:08 <bluemoon> if the answers are not already documented somewhere 16:28:26 <bluemoon> I guess that is "what is the workflow for answering questions if we don't already know the answer" 16:28:39 <bluemoon> though I think that was mentioned last week to "ask on IRC" 16:29:51 <taffo> I just started reading the issues in gitlab but i didn't really understand any. So i guess i will just have to do more research before asking any question here 16:29:58 <ggus> for these special cases, it depends on what question. if it's about browser, about tor in general, relays... but in general IRC+trac can answer these questions 16:30:34 <Highflyer910> I have a question, how can I put my Frontdesk contribution on Outreachy contribution page? They ask URL of the contribution 16:31:46 <ggus> Highflyer910: we can upload to our nextcloud instance, so you can have an official URL to submit to Outreachy. 16:32:24 <bluemoon> I thought we don't get Frontdesk access? Or was that a question by email? 16:32:40 <bluemoon> Also, question; what is trac? 16:33:25 <pili> bluemoon: that's right, you don't get frontdesk access :) 16:33:40 <pili> trac is our wiki and ticke management system: trac.torproject.org 16:33:44 <ggus> bluemoon: you're right. outreachy applicants doesn't have directly access to frontdesk. we will email some questions to the applicants 16:33:52 <pili> there's a lot of information there but it can take a while to find sometimes :) 16:34:23 <ggus> tip: create an account in trac, so you can use the search... 16:35:03 <bluemoon> ah :) 16:35:26 <Highflyer910> ggus good:) 16:36:12 <bluemoon> When we are answering questions and we don't find them in trac, which is the correct irc channel to ask? 16:36:17 <bluemoon> #tor ? 16:36:38 <Highflyer910> depends on a question, I guess, no? 16:37:28 <ggus> yes, depends. but usually #tor, #tor-project 16:37:53 <ggus> and if it's a question about outreachy documentation tasks, #tor-www 16:38:40 <taffo> can we ask question through email also? 16:38:44 <bluemoon> great, thanks @ggus 16:40:11 <ggus> taffo: only for private things, e.g, create gitlab account. 16:40:29 * gman999 surveilling... 16:41:03 <taffo> ok thanks 16:42:32 <ggus> ok, more questions or we're good? 16:43:01 <bluemoon> I am ok for now :) 16:43:06 <ggus> pili: i just remembered that we're going to have tor browser release next week. 16:43:14 <pili> yes 16:43:17 <pili> October 22 16:43:30 <bluemoon> How often do releases happen? 16:43:48 <bluemoon> @gman999 *winks* 16:43:57 <ggus> phew, we need to prepare the documentation update. do we have an alpha release to try with all features? 16:44:46 <c1e0> ggus: Can I help with this documentation update? 16:45:15 <Highflyer910> No more questions. Just very curious to know if my last PR is good:) 16:45:46 <pili> ggus: there should be one today or tomorrow 16:45:56 <pili> they're building right now and checking the builds match 16:46:27 <ggus> c1e0: yes, i'll open some new issues 16:46:39 <c1e0> :D 16:47:34 <ggus> Highflyer910: i'll ask one more tor contributor to review it too, since DoH is a new topic. 16:49:24 <ggus> anything else people? i think we're good 16:49:44 <Highflyer910> ggus yes, and very interesting, thank you 16:50:08 <taffo> how often do we have meetings please? 16:50:25 <ggus> Highflyer910: thanks for taking that question, it wasn't easy :) 16:50:31 <ggus> taffo: every monday, 1600 UTC 16:51:07 <taffo> Alright. Thanks 16:51:26 <Highflyer910> ggus definitely was not, because there are different opinions about it 16:54:02 <ggus> ok people, i think that's it for today :) 16:54:07 <ggus> #endmeeting