15:00:56 #startmeeting S27 11/26 15:00:56 Meeting started Tue Nov 26 15:00:56 2019 UTC. The chair is pili. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:56 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:23 hi everyone 15:01:53 here's the pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/s27-meeting-keep 15:01:54 please add your notes 15:02:05 hello 👋 15:02:58 hi 15:03:54 hello :) 15:04:07 who else is around? asn dgoulet? 15:04:24 mcs/brade are you still working on S27 stuff? I've lost track... :/ 15:05:16 hi! 15:05:54 hi gaba, nice to see you here :) 15:05:59 :) 15:07:20 we don't seem to have any network team representatives here today 15:07:54 maybe they're running late 15:08:11 pili: did you see the mail from asn/dgoulet on s27? 15:08:20 yup, I'm just adding it to the discussion 15:08:27 ok 15:08:28 I saw it but didn't really process it 15:09:54 ok 15:10:00 let's get started with some logistics for the next few meetings 15:10:07 hello 15:10:13 the next meeting will be on the 10th December 15:10:15 hey asn 15:10:22 ok whats up 15:10:23 after that it will be Christams 15:10:34 so the last meeting for this year will be on the 10th December 15:10:40 ok great 15:11:02 does the 7th January work for the first meeting of the year? or do we want to push it out to the 14th January? 15:11:11 7th sounds good to me 15:11:20 works for me 15:12:00 o/ 15:12:32 ok 15:12:33 hey dgoulet 15:13:13 dgoulet: https://pad.riseup.net/p/s27-meeting-keep 15:13:28 next item (while people are still updating their notes...) is the november monthly report 15:13:53 I've started a pad for this here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/AwLTShMbdFVHm44UVVfu 15:13:58 please add any sponsor 27 tickets you worked on in November and I'll try to weave them into a nice narrative :) 15:14:47 ( o/ sorry i'm late ) 15:14:53 sysrqb: o/ 15:15:07 pili: do you want me to do nov report now? or asynchronously later? 15:15:36 dgoulet: please add net team work that i didnt mention 15:16:08 asn: depends how well you can multi-task :D 15:16:20 i have finished doing the biweekly status report 15:16:22 so i can do the other one 15:16:26 with single-tasking 15:16:34 it's more about how much time we want to devote to this phase of the meeting 15:18:04 ah, it was just an FYI, feel free to fill it out some other time :) 15:18:20 dgoulet: i think it would be useful for you to also fill out tickets you did during november 15:18:23 I probably won't start writing it until friday at the earliest 15:18:31 dgoulet: because i mainly worked on the few OB tickets, wheras you went all over with the o1a1.1 15:18:32 asn: yeah I'm collecting them... 15:18:48 asn: my Trac timeline is quite big with bunch of things :S 15:18:58 yeah :) 15:19:14 sorry; lost track of time :( 15:19:15 asn: but don't we want that in the Nov. report also? 15:19:22 (oops! sorry, reviewing code) 15:19:36 dgoulet: i meant nov report 15:19:41 (also I can only go 15 days in the past with this timeline, so delays) 15:19:53 if everyone is good we can move on to discussing Objective 1 for the network team and whether we should try and make all remaining tickets -can instead of -must :) 15:20:07 ah yes ofc I will update the nov report with all the goodies 15:21:07 #29995 15:21:25 pili: aha 15:21:30 what should we do about this? 15:21:36 (also re: the mail we sent) 15:21:53 yup 15:21:54 so I'm happy to do what you propose 15:22:03 ok sounds good 15:22:08 and we just need to have a good reason/explanation for this 15:22:21 ok we can do that 15:22:22 if needd 15:22:23 if needed 15:22:36 the follow up question I have is whether we are at 100% now or we will be by the end of the year 15:22:52 if we move some tickets from -must to -can 15:23:06 we are at 100% of #29999 right now. 15:23:13 and we can be 100% of O1A1.1 soon 15:23:16 probs by EOY 15:23:39 I can close #29999 right now. 15:23:48 closing. 15:23:53 ok 15:23:56 \o/ 15:24:07 boom closed. 15:24:12 great success 15:24:15 29999, what a number 15:24:20 (answering question from backlog): meeting on Jan 7, 2020 works for brade and me 15:24:34 thanks for confirming mcs ! 15:24:39 O1A1.1 just requires a bit more work and it can be 100% soon (right dgoulet?) 15:24:53 one last thing before we move on to the learning lab question 15:24:53 in particular it's the children of #30200 that need to be closed down 15:25:05 yes so about this ^ 15:25:22 #30200 I'm currently finalizing those for -must work... most of these tickets will get closed or retriaged differently 15:25:23 are there any current dependencies on network team that the browser team needs help on? 15:25:29 the remaining -must should be done very soon 15:25:38 then remains #22893 15:25:41 pili: as far as we know, the TB team should be satisfied right now 15:25:55 (or vice-versa...) 15:26:10 #32562 is our latest export, which we hope the TB team samples and let us know if it tastes well 15:26:18 (after request from mcs) 15:26:26 good stuff 15:26:29 asn: ack, and thanks for your work on that one 15:26:39 mcs: no problem. was good. we learned stuff out of it. 15:26:44 I am sure it will taste good 15:27:01 i hope so! 15:27:14 good good :) 15:27:28 one thing to note for pili and antonela if they missed it: we will not have nicknames for keys 15:27:45 not in the little-t-tor layer 15:27:50 if needed ,they can be done on the TB layer 15:27:54 that means users will probably see .onion addresses 15:27:54 I thought I saw something on irc about this yesterday... 15:27:59 i discover that this week yes 15:28:14 my thinking is first pass to not include them but we will see 15:28:35 (I am not sure how many people will use this feature at all) 15:28:43 ye 15:28:46 “this feature” being client auth 15:28:51 it's a niche feature 15:28:51 right 15:28:59 feedback would be welcome from actual users :) 15:29:02 onionshare is using plain http auth for their onions 15:29:03 well, hopefully by making it easier we will make it more mainstream :) 15:29:07 O2A2..O2A5 is where the users are 15:29:19 pili: yes def 15:29:21 that's the goal 15:29:26 mcs will review the mocks, my latest version doesnt have nickname 15:29:26 mcs: we will get feedback for sure 15:29:36 sounds good 15:30:35 ok, anything else anyone is collaborating on? 15:30:45 or shall we move on to learning lab? 15:31:05 fine by me 15:31:18 o/ 15:31:32 the learning lab item is mine and is so short - i want to make sure that we are applying to it more soonish than later 15:31:59 agreed 15:32:07 i have some expectations about the work they can do with us and i hope we got good deliverables that we can reuse in other communications too 15:33:23 I'm fine with that also, I can work on that with Steph in early December 15:33:53 I think that's what we had decided 15:33:54 happy for others to get involved also :) 15:34:38 i think we have the right people in the email thread 15:34:47 lets see if comms needs anything else for apply 15:34:56 ok 15:35:14 sounds good 15:35:19 anything else on this? 15:35:30 or other S27/Onion Services related topics? 15:35:43 nope 15:35:55 no (and sorry again for being late) 15:36:08 all good 15:36:12 question 15:36:28 are this sponsor reports being public? 15:36:33 i mean in otf-talk? 15:37:04 I think not yet 15:37:19 let me bring this up with bekeela 15:38:14 lets do it, is a good way to share our work wiht the broad otf community 15:38:24 cool 15:38:40 ok, I think if there's nothing else we can end the meeting here :) 15:39:26 thanks everyone! 15:39:30 thanks pili! 15:39:35 o/ 15:39:54 #endmeeting