17:59:14 #startmeeting Network team meeting, 9 december 2019 17:59:14 Meeting started Mon Dec 9 17:59:14 2019 UTC. The chair is ahf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:59:14 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:59:20 yoyo network-team folks o/ 17:59:36 our pad is at https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-netteam-2019.1-keep 17:59:50 o/ 17:59:53 who is here for the meeting today? :-) 17:59:55 o/ catalyst 18:00:05 o/ 18:00:08 hihi 18:00:23 mikeperry, asn: around? 18:00:39 hello 18:01:08 o/ 18:01:13 hi 18:01:35 okay, let's begin 18:01:41 hey 18:01:42 the first item is to look at our 0.4.2 status page 18:01:54 So, I'm planning to release 0.4.2 today 18:01:56 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/teams/NetworkTeam/CoreTorReleases/042Status 18:02:06 maybe we can take 0.4.2 status off our meeting agenda? :) 18:02:13 yes, i was gonna ask that like last week 18:02:50 so, what do we want to do here? do we want to have an 0.4.3 status page soon'ish? this time i think everybody was a bit "surprised" about the release scheduling coming up and maybe we can do something to keep the next release in people's minds 18:02:55 maybe we also wait a bit of time before we do that 18:03:20 For 043, freeze is on 15 Jan and stable is meant to be ready 15 Apr 18:03:39 so beginning a 0.4.3 status might make sense at the freeze when bug hunting begins? 18:03:44 freeze point* 18:04:19 we can chat about that in january maybe? 18:04:31 ok 18:05:07 ok, next up is roadmap 18:05:24 our board is at https://dip.torproject.org/torproject/core/tor/-/boards 18:06:29 looks correct-ish to me 18:06:38 seems ok to me too 18:06:47 ok 18:07:00 asn: how are we doing with review assignments? 18:07:03 and dgoulet too 18:07:17 i assigned them in the afternoon 18:07:20 it was just one so i took it 18:07:29 okay, i see none that are unassigned, great 18:07:56 tbh 18:07:57 over the past weeks 18:08:04 there hasnt been many needs_review things that needed to be assigned by us 18:08:15 okay, then it's discussions. i'm a bit unsure about the upcoming releases was just an artifact from last week or if we had a follow up to do this week? 18:08:20 asn: that is a very good sign 18:08:21 maybe subteams are assigning them in-team 18:08:28 wonderful to hear 18:08:31 only followup for releases is: 18:08:32 yeah 18:08:47 I'm planning to put them out today, after the meeting. Please let me know right now if I shouldn't. :) 18:08:54 the more reviews we can get during the week between peers in the network team the better 18:09:02 nickm: okay, great! 18:10:07 moving to next item (let me know if it's going too fast): meeting time policy proposal 18:10:35 i thiiink it's added by tim, but not 100% sure. they submitted it to the ML 18:11:10 my personal opinion was that it is fine, but i'm not 100% sure if it has to be a policy? more something we just agree on? but then i might not be viewing the policy framework the same way as everybody else 18:11:13 what does people think? 18:11:56 I don't think it hurts to have it as a policy 18:12:06 it would save time 18:12:36 yeah, that was also the thing i was thinking of. so the step here would be to ask people to build up some thoughts on this and reply with that :-) 18:12:49 or just vote if you don't have much to say :) 18:12:50 it is fine for me to have it as a policy 18:12:51 * catalyst thinks it's guidelines more than policy, but the content is fine 18:12:58 yes, guidelines +1 18:13:07 but we can adopt guidelines as part of the policy framework IMO 18:13:18 I'm not sure we have a policy about what counts as a policy. 18:13:37 I think that de facto, it's guidelines, since it says "ignore this with an explanation whenever you think it's a good idea" 18:13:45 true 18:14:03 so even if we call the document a MUST, all of its contents are SHOULD. 18:14:15 okay folks, please spend a bit of time this week thinking about this proposal and respond to it :-) tim spend some time thinking of this, and is the one suffering the most from being far away from the rest of us when it comes to TZ choices we make :-) 18:14:47 do we have anything else we need to discuss this week? :-) 18:15:18 we need to start thinking about what we want to include as priorities for the roadmapping meeting next week 18:15:30 yeah 18:15:45 but we do not have to discuss it here :) 18:16:16 right 18:17:01 oki, do we have anything else? 18:17:04 otherwise we have a very short meeting 18:17:19 \o/ 18:17:25 okay, everybody! gonna end it 18:17:27 #endmeeting