18:58:24 #startmeeting Tor Browser meeting 01 March 2021 18:58:24 Meeting started Mon Mar 1 18:58:24 2021 UTC. The chair is sysrqb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:58:24 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:58:34 Hello! 18:58:37 Pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-tbb-keep 19:01:24 o/ 19:05:32 Alright 19:06:37 GeKo: can you take the mozilla87 rebasing MRs this week? 19:07:05 yes 19:07:18 thanks 19:09:39 We currently have an Android Alpha scheduled for this Friday 19:10:08 but last week was a disaster for me, so publishing an alpha this week seems unlikely 19:10:46 I think next Tuesday seems more reasonable 19:11:28 boklm: GeKo: let's sync near the end of this week 19:11:43 because I am assuming the toolchain work will be the largest blocker 19:12:01 but you need a few days for getting started on that, yes? 19:12:18 i am not doing anything in that regard at the moment 19:12:29 but i am happy to review boklm's patch 19:12:33 and help with that if needed 19:12:42 i chatted with boklm last week 19:12:50 I'm planning to work on this this week, but I don't know yet how difficult/how long it will take 19:12:52 and he should be up to speed at least 19:13:15 Yes, good, that was my understanding 19:13:52 so boklm can have a couple days before we begin estimating when we can publish an Alpha 19:14:51 sysrqb: oh, and to be sure with "take the mozilla87 rebasing MRs" you meant review the rebased results, right? 19:15:03 yes 19:15:06 k 19:16:04 pospeselr: you are up to speed on the tor-browser#27476 19:16:08 ? 19:16:12 yep :) 19:16:15 great 19:16:18 progress is well underway 19:19:06 this week we may actually have an unscheduled Linux-only stable release for tor-browser#40328 19:19:42 i need to test the patch, but is may be a simple fix 19:19:47 *it 19:20:09 boklm: is your build computer setup now? 19:20:58 yes, I can do builds 19:21:45 thanks. If we have a fix, then I'm hoping we'll start building tomorrow 19:21:50 man, this bug is embarassing, if it turns out to be the issue :( 19:21:58 yeah :/ 19:21:59 * GeKo blushes 19:22:16 *and* i stared at that patch and decided it was correct 19:22:49 *and* we did a lot of digging to find the root cause off the problem :) 19:22:54 *of 19:23:01 yeah 19:23:10 *sigh* 19:23:15 but so be it 19:23:17 oh well. 19:23:19 yeah 19:24:29 dunqan: do you want to talk about the survey? 19:24:38 hello! yes please 19:24:45 o/ 19:24:56 i was wondering if we could take down the banners (stable and alpha) for 2021-03-23? 19:25:22 yes, we can do that 19:25:24 i'll doublecheck with anti-censorship that they're fine with that, but my guess is yes :) 19:25:31 great, I'll post the tickets 19:25:36 we've had... a lot of responses 19:25:44 that's exciting 19:25:50 * sysrqb is a little surprised 19:26:07 but happy to hear it. I hope they are high quality 19:26:11 yeah I'm suspicious of spam given the number 19:26:27 however I spot checked 100 and only found 1 or 2 spammy looking submissions 19:26:42 and we're currently well over 15k completions 19:27:16 Honestly that number doesn't shock me, but maybe I'm overestimating the total number of users 19:27:58 Shocking or not, it's great news :) 19:28:26 most of the responses are low-effort, but that may actually help us wade through everything faster so not necessarily a bad thing :) 19:28:58 Snowflake has had under 300 completions too, which is honestly pretty good given the subset of users we were targeting with that one 19:30:03 ~1.5 million people should've seen the general survey banner 19:30:22 so, 1% response? 19:30:38 So that's 1% response rate, doesn't seem too surprising to me 19:30:59 yeah, that's fair 19:31:00 yeah it makes a lot more sense when you put it that way ^^ 19:31:30 We may design the next survey (if/whenever that happens) to have more predetermined responses to ease with reporting 19:31:35 so, lessons learned :) 19:32:05 and that 1% response rate is without localization 19:32:45 yeah, we don't seem to have had any complaints about that which is good 19:32:46 this seems like a good learning experience 19:34:18 okay, dunqan, yes if you can ipen tickets for removing the banner(s), then we'll revert that in the next release on the March 23 19:34:28 *open 19:34:30 will do, thanks! 19:35:22 dunqan: i've gotten through most of your feedback in tor-browser#27476 and should hopefully finish it up tomorrow, after which i'll try and get a build for you 19:35:40 that's awesome, thanks pospeselr! 19:36:17 General reminder to update your Gitlab Boards (if needed) 19:36:49 That's all I have for this meeting. 19:37:11 I'll wait one more minute, in case anyone wants to add a discussion topic on the pad 19:38:15 Alright 19:38:19 thanks everyon 19:38:20 e 19:38:23 have a good week 19:38:23 o/ 19:38:23 l8r 19:38:25 #endmeeting