16:01:25 #startmeeting network-health 16:01:25 Meeting started Mon May 24 16:01:25 2021 UTC. The chair is GeKo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:01:25 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:01:29 alright 16:01:57 hi 16:02:01 hello everyone to a new weekly network-health meeting 16:02:17 ggus: hey, you around today by chance? 16:02:20 yess 16:02:26 great 16:02:46 it was not super-urgent last week, so i did not follow up during the week 16:02:56 given that you probably were super busy 16:02:58 so 16:03:19 o/ 16:03:31 we still have the [GeKo: ggus will follow-up on that thread] on our pad 16:03:51 we wrote at the first network-health meeting of the new era 16:04:00 i wonder whether that's still a todo thing 16:04:11 or whether you actually already followed-up here 16:04:16 dennis_jackson: welcome! 16:04:26 I didn't follow up, but it's on my todo list. 16:04:41 i want to review some participants before we push it 16:05:23 can you share the meeting pad? 16:05:28 okay, that's cool. i just wanted to make sure it does not fall through the cracks 16:05:31 oh, sorry 16:05:35 http://kfahv6wfkbezjyg4r6mlhpmieydbebr5vkok5r34ya464gqz6c44bnyd.onion/p/tor-nethealthteam-2021.1-keep 16:05:48 o/ 16:06:16 i have 3 things on my plate: 1. that thread, 2. update bad relays page, 3. move the relay expectations to the community portal. 16:06:56 2. is for the community-portal part? 16:07:02 yes 16:07:22 great 16:07:39 i got some relay ops feedback for the bad-relay criteria page 16:07:44 gus: im going to add those 3 things to the pad status update for you 16:07:52 and adapted the one we have in network-health land 16:08:04 gaba: thanks! 16:08:09 you can see the changes in the git repo if you are curious :) 16:08:18 gaba: add this ticket: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/web/community/-/issues/200 16:08:22 they were minor and clarified some things 16:08:49 and this: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/relays/-/issues/18 16:09:04 fwiw: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/network-health/team/-/wikis/Criteria-for-rejecting-bad-relays is the page we currently have 16:10:07 okay 16:10:45 irl[m]: we were wondering what you think about working on https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/metrics/collector/-/issues/40006 16:11:11 do you have an estimate about how much time you would need to fix that? 16:11:23 i don't know enough about this to understand the risks of exposing those lines so i'm waiting for mikeperry to say something 16:11:30 in a way that general overload* support gets added to descriptor parsing code 16:11:54 the fix itself is adding the line to a list of lines that are allowed, and then doing deployments of affected code 16:11:54 i think dgoulet is right about that 16:12:02 the deployments probably take longer than the code change 16:12:29 okay 16:12:50 howe long would it take to add general metrics support for prop#328? 16:12:54 if we think they are safe, then that's ok i can move forward with that this week to make sure we're not dropping too many descriptors 16:13:10 what do you mean by general support? 16:13:26 i'm focussed only on "don't have it break" right now, should there be more to it? 16:13:44 parsing logic for those new overload* lines in metrics code 16:14:16 so the parsing code will go in metrics-lib at the same time because it's not worth waiting, but having the library parse it doesn't do a lot 16:14:26 well, we eventually need to have support for overload line parsing in metrics code, so we can make better use of those in metrics land 16:14:40 it's possible that when i'm adding the geoip lookup code in onionoo, i could add a parameter to relays to say they are overloaded 16:15:18 i see 16:15:35 right now i am just concerned with the parsing code being available 16:15:58 ok so yes, i'll add the parsing code at the same time as fixing bridge sanitisation 16:16:07 * ok so yes, i'll add the parsing code at the same time as fixing bridge descriptor sanitisation 16:16:26 we could think about the onionoo part in a different ticket i guess 16:16:49 great, so mike is the blocker here then. i can ping him so we get this moved forward 16:16:53 thanks 16:16:57 sure 16:17:02 that sounds good 16:17:07 great 16:17:28 do we have anything else to discuss today? 16:17:39 dennis_jackson: how is it going with the experiment? 16:17:44 anything we can help with? 16:18:36 We stopped the measurement saturday evening. I haven't had a chance to look at it properly yet 16:18:54 nice 16:19:06 but hope to find the time this week to make a quick breakdown and post the data 16:19:28 Hopefully we see either positive impact or at least no impact 16:19:41 Are you planning to look at the overload metrics once the parsing support is in? 16:19:54 yep, re: impact 16:20:58 great 16:21:15 so, we have some non-metrics overload* monitoring ongoing right now 16:21:25 we could look at that 16:21:31 and, yes, that is a good idea 16:21:56 even though this features is not in any tor stable yet 16:22:04 thus, we might not see much 16:22:09 ah true 16:22:13 *feature 16:22:49 i make a note to do so, thanks 16:23:19 anything else for today? 16:23:21 np :-) 16:23:29 nothing from me 16:23:38 i'm good 16:23:56 https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/network-health/team/-/issues/44 could maybe use some guidelines/requirements for useful output 16:24:38 is likely related to https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/metrics/analysis/-/issues/33076 16:24:51 in terms of the kind of tool/script output 16:24:58 yeah, i've talked a bit about it. 16:25:00 I guess acute likely off today 16:25:07 ah ok, sorry just dropping in 16:25:17 i am not sure how far acute came with her hours here 16:25:32 no, no, it's actually a good idea :) 16:25:58 yeah gaba asked me wrt extending her hours to finish that analysis branch.. but we should have an idea of what finished looks like 16:26:11 right 16:26:25 yes, we talked about it with geko today 16:26:41 i need to think about that 16:26:53 and right, adding more info on what we would be asking her it would be a good idea 16:28:24 mikeperry: while you are here: could you chime in on https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/metrics/collector/-/issues/40006? 16:28:47 we could then move forward with that ticket i think 16:31:06 okay, i added the item about those requirements/guidelines to my plate for this week 16:31:23 we'll see how my progress will look like 16:32:00 anything else? 16:32:18 not from me 16:32:24 * GeKo wonders whether arma2 will jump in next :) 16:32:24 not from me 16:32:29 heh 16:32:48 okay, let's be fast and close this meeting then, thanks everyone 16:32:52 #endmeeting