13:59:22 <ggus> #startmeeting Community Team meeting - 2022-06-06
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13:59:25 <championquizzer> hello o/
13:59:26 <ggus> hello team! o/
13:59:33 <nina13[m]> hi!
13:59:40 <ggus> the community team weekly meeting is starting now
13:59:51 <nah> o/
14:00:13 <ggus> here's our meeting pad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-community-team-2022-keep
14:00:18 <ggus> please add your updates
14:00:43 <ggus> and let us know when you finish
14:01:09 <emmapeel> o/
14:01:09 <rhatto> hey :)
14:02:10 <raya[m]> o/
14:03:35 <emmapeel> im done
14:03:52 * championquizzer is done too
14:06:36 <ggus> while we wait others to finish, lm share this here
14:06:40 <ggus> * RightsCon is happening this week. Tor Project panel is happening today (21:30 UTC): https://twitter.com/torproject/status/1532780724973031424
14:07:09 <ggus> richard and arthur are joining this panel
14:07:52 <emmapeel> arthur?
14:08:13 <ggus> eldestein
14:08:17 <emmapeel> oh nice!
14:08:38 <raya[m]> awesome!
14:10:23 <ggus> alright! i think everyone finish to update the pad.
14:10:26 <ggus> let's start
14:10:32 <ggus> * Tor Browser User manual alpha release
14:10:52 <ggus> championquizzer: would you like to share where we are at updating the manual with 11.5 release?
14:11:31 <championquizzer> have added most of the strings that we needed to add wrt 11.5 release
14:11:37 <championquizzer> new strings for:
14:11:47 <championquizzer> connection assist
14:11:54 <championquizzer> new bridges ui
14:12:14 <championquizzer> and connection test
14:12:45 <championquizzer> this week i plan to add a few more strings about bridges emoji identification / qr codes and https only mode
14:12:56 <championquizzer> then I think we will be covered
14:13:13 <championquizzer> emmapeel: what was that preview url to see all the changes on the manual?
14:13:28 <emmapeel> lemme find it
14:13:36 <emmapeel> https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/web/manual/-/jobs/140193
14:13:50 <ggus> https://review.torproject.net/tpo/web/manual/review-alpha-b7qs6d/bridges/
14:13:59 <ggus> the user is: tor-www
14:14:20 <championquizzer> yes, thanks!
14:15:14 <ggus> great work, championquizzer!
14:15:28 <championquizzer> ty! :)
14:15:37 <emmapeel> great stuff
14:15:57 <ggus> it would be great if everyone can read check these additions before we send to translation
14:16:42 <ggus> emmapeel: can we set a deadline for that?
14:16:46 <emmapeel> yes. i was checking a bit before because i want to send them quickly
14:16:57 <emmapeel> we said to localization lab that we will send the strings at the end of may
14:17:19 <emmapeel> so we are past the deadline
14:17:53 <ggus> emmapeel: can we send it tomorrow, so we have at least today for the team to review it?
14:18:00 * gman999 lurking but working
14:18:01 <emmapeel> sure
14:19:02 <ggus> thanks! if people don't know where to find the TB alpha manual, you just need to click here: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/web/manual/-/environments
14:19:15 <ggus> and click on "Open"
14:20:01 <emmapeel> *on 'review/alpha'
14:20:04 <ggus> reviewing the strings now is very important so we don't get back and forth updating the manual
14:20:24 <emmapeel> yes
14:20:45 <ggus> and the ticket to add your feedback is this one: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/web/manual/-/issues/119
14:20:49 <emmapeel> you can review the string difference with the 'check_l10n_freshness' job
14:21:41 <championquizzer> i think you can see the changes live here too: https://championquizzer.pages.torproject.net/manual/
14:24:15 <ggus> cool! i added these links to the pad
14:24:24 <ggus> anything else about TB-11.5 update?
14:24:39 <raya[m]> that's really cool work championquizzer :)
14:24:51 <championquizzer> thanks raya[m] :)
14:25:06 <emmapeel> i think we should be careful not to break images in other parts of the doc, but we should remove the screenshots that we are replacing
14:25:09 <emmapeel> otherwise the repo is full of unused screenshots
14:25:52 <emmapeel> i would rather overwrite the images that we have already
14:26:13 <ggus> after the TB-manual update, we will need to check all our resources and update too. That includes: RT support articles, support portal, training materials, the main tpo website (https://www.torproject.org/download/)...
14:26:15 <championquizzer> emmapeel: yep, that's the plan i.e. to overwrite the images that we are replacing
14:27:30 <ggus> i'll move to the topic
14:27:35 <ggus> * Hackweek
14:27:50 <ggus> https://hackweek.onionize.space/hackweek/
14:28:07 <ggus> You can enter proposals until 2022-06-24 17:25 (UTC), 2 weeks, 4 days from now.
14:29:06 <emmapeel> with raya we were thinking on proposing a group to make a tor video. it started with a conversation with the localization lab about countering misinformation about tor
14:29:12 <ggus> from what i'm hearing from the team, we won't have a "community team proposal", but many proposals.
14:29:40 <ggus> emmapeel: nice!
14:29:49 <emmapeel> really? cool! is there a place to see the current proposals?
14:29:51 <gman999> i assume more sessions are in the queue for hackweek?
14:30:27 <rhatto> im compiling possible proposals about onion services at https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/onion-services/onion-support/-/issues/116
14:31:17 <ggus> there are only two proposals on the website at the moment, but many of us having been thinking on new proposals
14:31:30 <gman999> ah, i just see GeKos
14:32:09 <ggus> gman999: it's because pretalx needs a moderator to click on "release a schedule"
14:32:17 <gman999> k
14:32:23 <ggus> a *new* schedule
14:33:29 <ggus> so yes, send your proposal and start recruting your hackweek team asap :)
14:33:55 * gman999 would love to but sort of swamped ATM
14:33:58 <ggus> idk if i'll send a new proposal or will join forces
14:34:15 <ggus> but, this ticket is promissing: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/network-health/team/-/issues/142
14:34:46 <gman999> oh, nice...
14:34:53 <gman999> we've discussed this in many forms.
14:34:59 <emmapeel> ggus: but where can you see the proposals?
14:35:35 <ggus> emmapeel: at the moment you need to click here: https://hackweek.onionize.space/hackweek/speaker/
14:36:25 <ggus> the 'schedule' and 'sessions' need some change in the configuration that i couldn't find yet
14:36:42 <emmapeel> thanks!
14:37:37 <championquizzer> rhatto: was reading that ticket. v interesting!
14:39:44 <rhatto> championquizzer, thanks and feel free to join! i'll try to submit at least one proposal by the end of this week
14:41:12 <ggus> cool! anything else that you would like to share about the hackweek?
14:42:45 <ggus> i'll move to the next topic
14:42:48 <ggus> * sysadmin 101 post-training/follow up
14:42:53 <gman999> tadum
14:43:09 <ggus> gman999: would you like to share your thoughts about the sysadmin 101 workshop?
14:43:21 <gman999> not really. i want to hear others' thoughts :)
14:43:28 <gman999> i alrady know what i think!
14:43:34 <ggus> or if you prefer we can schedule some time this week for that
14:43:40 <gman999> ggus? raya? champion?
14:43:57 <gman999> just teasing.. but very curious to hear feedback...
14:44:00 <gman999> to do:
14:44:12 <gman999> i sent draft post-event survey quesitons yesterfday for review
14:44:30 <ggus> i didn't have time to collect feedback from the operators yet. but the workshop went smoothly! the chat was on fire
14:44:31 <gman999> i need an example of the markdown style so i can redo for tor presentation
14:44:50 <gman999> i thought it went great, but i couldn't really judge.
14:45:12 <gman999> i think the four of us should get the same outfits and go on tour.
14:45:15 <raya[m]> i really enjoyed it personally
14:45:18 <championquizzer> i am very happy that our conservative estimate of folks who would join the workshop... was shattered :)
14:45:24 <gman999> :))))
14:45:28 <ggus> gman999: if you want to publish as a revealjs slide, you can check this resource: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/web/community/-/blob/main/content/training/resources/tor-relay-workshop/contents.lr
14:45:30 <championquizzer> *number of folks
14:45:47 <gman999> i think if post survey goes out.. .we might include:
14:45:55 <gman999> "if you weren't able to attend, why?"
14:45:57 <emmapeel> gman999: regarding presentations, you mean on the community portal? like these https://community.torproject.org/training/resources/all-about-tor/ ?
14:46:00 <gman999> __ technical reasons, etc.
14:46:25 <emmapeel> gman999: i can help out to make it become a slideshow in the community portal
14:46:28 <gman999> ty ggus
14:46:40 <gman999> sure emmapeel... i dont know if it's worthy at this point.
14:46:44 <gman999> but would love to
14:46:46 <emmapeel> i have already formatted some
14:46:51 <gman999> cool.
14:46:52 <ggus> gman999: please accept this emmapeel offer.^
14:46:59 <emmapeel> i think it is a good idea because we can translate it there
14:47:03 <gman999> oh course...
14:47:21 <gman999> very happy to.
14:47:26 <gman999> if you think it's ok.
14:47:29 <emmapeel> the formatting is a bit sneaky and i already know all the tricks
14:47:35 <emmapeel> or the limitations
14:47:38 <gman999> great.
14:47:38 <ggus> it is!
14:47:39 <gman999> appreciated.
14:47:47 <raya[m]> happy to support here too!
14:47:51 <gman999> i know enough markdown.. just dont know the tor way
14:47:53 <gman999> cool raya
14:48:09 <gman999> it was really a first run. so i think much improvement is necessary
14:48:41 <gman999> we can connect up later emmapeel.
14:48:51 <gman999> ok.. to close this:
14:48:51 <emmapeel> ok!
14:48:56 <championquizzer> i'd also like to add that i enjoyed the content for the workshop. easy to understand for beginners
14:49:10 <championquizzer> and a lot of things were covered. so that too
14:49:13 <gman999> ggus,kushal,gaba have my post-event survey uqestions and other items
14:49:23 <gman999> great champion.. great to hear.
14:49:35 <ggus> gman999: for the post-form, i'd like to ask what other topics are they interested.
14:49:42 <gman999> but need to know feedback on what was unclear, missing
14:49:47 <gman999> yes... all you...
14:49:52 <gman999> you have my draft.. .run with it
14:50:02 <gman999> plus i put other items in that email yesterday you see
14:50:11 <ggus> i've chatting with some operators about funding and relay sustainability
14:50:23 <gman999> but yes... we need to build a replicatible model
14:50:26 <gman999> great.
14:50:41 <ggus> maybe a fundraising could be helpful
14:50:48 <emmapeel> gman999: there is also https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/web/wiki/-/wikis/How-to-create-a-presentation-in-the-community-portal about the slideshows
14:50:48 <ggus> fundraising workshop*
14:51:06 <gman999> cool emmapeel!
14:51:38 <ggus> gman999: when should we send this post-training survey? do you think you will have time to review it this week?
14:51:52 <gman999> yes.. we need to get out asap IMHO
14:52:12 <gman999> but i want to talk with you,kushal,gaba about content...
14:52:17 <gman999> and how it might be reworked.
14:52:22 <gman999> improvements
14:52:22 <emmapeel> yes, the fresher the event is on the attendants minds, the better the feedback
14:52:25 <ggus> ok, i'll move the questions to a pad
14:52:27 <gman999> agree.
14:52:32 <gman999> def emmapeel
14:52:56 <gman999> ty again for making it happen ggus
14:54:00 <ggus> :D thanks for running it
14:54:24 <ggus> gman999: i'll add the questions here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/oGxxZxdP1gt2gC9KWEjk-survey-sysadmin101-keep
14:54:29 <gman999> cool.
14:56:03 <ggus> cool! anything else that you would to share about the workshop?
14:57:10 <ggus> it seems people are good
14:57:16 <gman999> not from me
14:57:17 <ggus> i'll stop the bot
14:57:20 <championquizzer> thanks everybody. have a excellent week!
14:57:22 <ggus> thanks everyone! o/
14:57:25 <ggus> #endmeeting