15:59:59 <donuts> #startmeeting UX Team Weekly Meeting, 25 October 2022 15:59:59 <MeetBot> Meeting started Tue Oct 25 15:59:59 2022 UTC. The chair is donuts. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:59:59 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:06 <donuts> pad is here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/tor-ux-team-2022-keep 16:00:18 <donuts> please add anything you'd like to discuss today to the agenda 16:00:33 <donuts> otherwise please feel free to fill out the weekly planning section :) 16:01:01 <nah> resistance 16:01:02 <nah> change 16:01:03 <nah> freedom 16:01:05 <nah> \o/ 16:01:14 <nah> great work :) 16:01:23 <nicob> \o/ 16:02:09 <nah> it's all last week, but still worth it to mention again haha 16:02:14 <championquizzer> absolutely <3 16:02:57 <donuts> haha sorry, forgot to update that bit 16:02:58 <donuts> there, done 16:06:29 <nicob> am done 16:06:35 <nah> done 16:06:36 <championquizzer> same 16:06:49 <donuts> lovely 16:06:52 * donuts checks the pad... 16:07:44 <donuts> nicob: I'm guessing you saw the sponsor's comment in the application icon ticket 16:08:00 <donuts> maybe we can catch up later on today, if you're ready by then? 16:08:21 <nicob> yep I did see that donuts 16:08:28 <nicob> and yes that should work! 16:08:33 <donuts> fantastic 16:08:43 <donuts> okay besides that I've got the only bold item 16:08:49 <donuts> "- Support 11.5.5 and 12.0a4 releases, coordinating with comms for the latter" 16:09:07 <donuts> basically the changelog for 12.0a4 is a monster 16:09:16 <donuts> thanks to the applications team's v hard work :D 16:09:23 <donuts> for ref: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser-build/-/issues/40627 16:09:23 <championquizzer> yeah :P 16:09:44 <donuts> the "big" things are: 16:09:56 <donuts> - Universal x86-64/arm64 bundles for MacOS 16:10:01 <donuts> - Multi-locale bundles for desktop 16:10:06 <donuts> - Ongoing accessibility improvements for desktop 16:10:11 <donuts> - and Onion auth fixes for desktop 16:10:45 <donuts> it's currently planned for release on Friday 16:11:04 <championquizzer> great 16:11:19 <donuts> as it stands this is our second last Alpha before 12.0 stable 16:11:27 <donuts> and the number of changes is making me a little nervous 16:11:30 <donuts> so I'm going to email comms today to ask them to do another round of Alpha tester recruitment posts 16:11:35 <nah> the multi-locale! 16:11:40 <nah> nice 16:12:29 <donuts> we're also going to email around internally 16:12:37 <donuts> but I'm open to ideas for how we can get more people testing :P 16:12:46 <nah> donuts: do we have a script to ask people to test specific changes? 16:13:01 <donuts> naturally the blog post gets crossposted to the Alpha Feedback section of the forum, but it doesn't get a lot of attention 16:13:42 <donuts> nah: my email to comms will include a description about the four big changes, we could maybe adapt that? 16:13:46 <championquizzer> donuts: qa testing recruitment is basically qa mailing list + forum + blog posts + comms (social media) right? 16:13:54 <donuts> the answer is kind of "test everything" though 16:14:01 <nah> i think including a couple of tasks encourage ppl to give their feedback 16:14:03 <donuts> championquizzer: right 16:14:27 <donuts> we won't do all of that again 16:14:33 <donuts> but I'm going to ask comms for a new round of social posts 16:15:15 <donuts> nah: we can do that, for sure 16:15:17 <nicob> maybe we can test a new recruitment graphics(s) for social? 16:15:35 <donuts> nicob: sounds good, what are you thinking? 16:16:07 <nicob> depending on what bugs you're looking for, could include some ui of relevant tasks so it feels like less of an abstract ask 16:16:36 <nicob> but open to other ideas too 16:16:50 <nicob> could simplify it, I know the last one was a little busy 16:16:58 <donuts> yep I like that! 16:17:12 <donuts> probably just simplify and paste the UI on a background or something 16:17:17 <donuts> to keep it quick and easy 16:17:23 <nah> i guess we can add a task about the multi-locales and about tor-launcher, just like pier mentioned in the ticket 16:17:36 <nicob> cool sounds good donuts. when are you hoping for it to reach social? today? 16:17:42 <donuts> kind of like: https://skiff.org/blog 16:17:51 <donuts> nicob: the release won't be going out until Friday 16:18:00 <nicob> oh okay so friday or after 16:18:04 <donuts> yeah exactly 16:18:08 <nicob> great 16:18:15 <donuts> it doesn't even need to be on Friday, next week is fine too 16:18:25 <donuts> there will be the usual blog post and tweets on friday obvs 16:18:47 <nicob> can't believe next week is november 16:18:55 <donuts> nah: yep, plus ask mac testers to test on mac, and the onion auth fixes 16:19:24 <donuts> okay this is great, let's try both of these ideas 16:19:35 <championquizzer> sounds good 16:19:47 <donuts> I'll start with emailing comms today and we can take it from there 16:19:58 <nah> nice :) 16:20:01 <nicob> cool :) 16:20:41 <donuts> championquizzer: I think it's over to you next! 16:20:52 <championquizzer> just a quick thing here: as with every release, i'll integrate the testing/qa into my workflow 16:21:07 <donuts> thank you ^^ 16:21:12 <nah> :D 16:21:15 <championquizzer> also tracking ticket for prep Tb 12 release wrt support 16:21:17 <championquizzer> https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/support/-/issues/40096 16:21:46 <championquizzer> happy to help in other ways if possible. let me know :) 16:22:18 <championquizzer> ok, i don't have mnay points to discuss just added some updates to the pad 16:22:20 <donuts> awesome, ty! 16:23:08 <championquizzer> we are continuously monitoring the censorship situation in iran as we receive user reports 16:23:41 <championquizzer> prep for the TB 12 release (ticket i mentioned above) is something i planned to do starting next week 16:24:00 <championquizzer> (i.e. november) <- nicob ;) 16:24:12 <nicob> hehe 16:24:30 <donuts> championquizzer: I think the release will probably get bumped into early December instead 16:24:35 <donuts> so we can make room for an extra alpha 16:24:41 <donuts> it's not official yet, but fyi 16:24:45 <championquizzer> sure 16:24:55 <championquizzer> donuts: but 11.5.5 is the last stable right? 16:25:02 <championquizzer> before TB 12 16:26:30 <donuts> championquizzer: that was the plan, but there could be an unscheduled release if there are CVEs that need beackported and 12.0 gets delayed 16:26:53 <championquizzer> i see 16:26:55 <championquizzer> ack 16:28:02 <donuts> any early feedback about CN & HK? :D 16:28:18 <donuts> also I'm curious what the "YEC related user support work" is like 16:28:37 <nah> ^ +1 16:28:45 <championquizzer> re. CA in CN& HK. nopes unfortunately. 16:29:35 <championquizzer> so during the YEC there's always a good deal of questions we receive from (likely new) users 16:30:01 <donuts> :o 16:30:15 <championquizzer> also a lot of user support questions get posted to the donation@. info@ queues 16:30:45 <championquizzer> so basically a lot of users are curious about how Tor works, etc things like that :) 16:30:58 <donuts> ohhhh, because of the extra publicity? 16:31:04 <championquizzer> yep 16:31:16 <donuts> I was assuming the YEC takeover was causing confusion somehow 16:31:22 <donuts> okay that makes sense then :) 16:31:23 <championquizzer> oh no 16:31:24 <nicob> thats what i was worried about too lol 16:31:26 <donuts> ha 16:31:35 <donuts> STAND DOWN EVERYONE 16:31:42 <donuts> THE UX IS OK 16:31:44 <nah> haha 16:31:45 * championquizzer should have phrased that properly /o\ 16:31:49 <championquizzer> sowwy! 16:31:53 <nicob> hehehe 16:31:56 <donuts> lmao 16:32:12 <donuts> okay well I think that brings us to the end of the pad 16:32:20 <donuts> thank you all for your hard work 16:32:37 <nah> thank you all! 16:32:40 <championquizzer> thanks all <3 16:32:45 <nicob> thanks y'all o/ 16:32:48 <donuts> have a good week! o/ 16:32:51 <nah> o/ 16:32:57 <donuts> #endmeeting