15:59:32 <GeKo> #startmeeting network-health 11/09/2022
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15:59:47 <GeKo> alright, let's see who is actually around today :)
15:59:54 <GeKo> juga maybe
16:00:00 <GeKo> and maybe ggus as well?
16:00:35 <ggus> hey
16:00:40 <ggus> o/
16:01:09 <GeKo> hi!
16:02:23 <GeKo> ggus: do you have anything to chat about?
16:02:53 <GeKo> should we sync a bit about our soto slides/talks?
16:03:18 <ggus> yes, and another two topics: the next tor relay operator
16:04:12 <ggus> and the evaluation criteria sponsor112 - https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/relays/-/issues/51
16:04:41 <GeKo> ggus: i wonder if we should talk about sponsor112 in our bbb sync tomorrow?
16:05:21 <GeKo> the nethealth meeting on irc has usually only a s112 part in those weeks where we don't have the bbb sync...
16:05:27 <GeKo> but i am fine either way
16:06:19 <ggus> GeKo: what time is this sync?
16:06:41 <GeKo> we said 1800utc
16:07:22 <GeKo> every first tue of the month
16:07:40 <GeKo> like we have the s61 bbb sync every first monday of the month
16:08:01 <GeKo> (unless we need to move it for reasons)
16:08:14 <ggus> i think tomorrow i have a meeting with S30 at the same time
16:08:29 <GeKo> :(
16:10:37 <GeKo> okay, so for the soto part i currently have
16:11:03 <GeKo> - talking a bit about malicious relays, linking to our blog post earlier this year and that https-only mode landed in 11.5
16:11:15 <GeKo> - eol work this year
16:11:36 <GeKo> - performance (s61) related things (over load of relays etc.)
16:11:54 <GeKo> then for 2023 i plan to explain a bit our s112 project
16:11:57 <GeKo> that's it
16:12:08 * juga wasn't having Internet
16:12:17 <GeKo> welcome!
16:12:20 <juga> thx
16:14:14 <ggus> GeKo: looks good!
16:14:40 <ggus> GeKo: i'm including about the tor relays meetup
16:15:10 <ggus> and i'll mention about s112 community work in 2023
16:15:50 <GeKo> sound good
16:16:00 <GeKo> *sounds
16:18:53 <GeKo> ggus: so, what about the next tor relay operator meetup?
16:19:00 <GeKo> should we draft an agenda?
16:19:53 <ggus> GeKo: yes, i'm opening a pad for that. i remember you mentioning about the dos
16:20:25 <GeKo> right. we could put a stronger focus on that topic for the next meetup
16:21:01 <GeKo> i need to think a bit hard whether we want to do that, though, given that things improved considerably last week
16:21:38 <ggus> https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/relays/-/issues/52
16:21:54 <GeKo> and we might be behind with a bunch of our initiatives (like the iptables thing)
16:22:08 <GeKo> but we should bring the dos situation up either way
16:24:31 <ggus> ok!
16:25:37 <GeKo> so for s112 what do you have in mind?
16:25:46 <GeKo> should we do voice at some point?
16:25:54 <GeKo> or is there something i should read up on?
16:25:56 <GeKo> or...?
16:27:22 <ggus> GeKo: let's discuss a little bit here today, then we can think more about this later this week
16:27:53 <ggus> so, we have this: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/network-health/team/-/issues/267
16:28:10 <ggus> we have the document 'expectations for relay operators'
16:28:15 <ggus> which is good
16:28:29 <ggus> https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/team/-/wikis/Expectations-for-Relay-Operators
16:28:56 <GeKo> right
16:29:06 <ggus> but we don't have any criteria for 'sucess of solutions'
16:29:38 <ggus> *success
16:30:15 <GeKo> i've not the proposal infront of me but we did not specify anything for drl in it?
16:30:39 <ggus> GeKo: no, we're the ones to build that criteria
16:30:45 <ggus> that *will
16:30:46 <GeKo> i see
16:30:49 <GeKo> okay
16:31:25 <GeKo> do you have started a pad or something where we could collaborate and do some brainstorming?
16:31:59 <ggus> i have that ticket open, but i can create a pad too
16:32:37 <ggus> GeKo: i thought about starting analysing the 'expectations of relay operators' and Tor CoC to find some criteria
16:33:00 <GeKo> well, i am fine working on a ticket. your call :)
16:33:04 <ggus> this ticket: https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/community/relays/-/issues/51
16:33:13 <GeKo> yeah
16:33:36 <GeKo> looking at those two for a start is a good idea
16:33:55 <GeKo> i'll think a bit this week for other things we might be able to use
16:34:59 <ggus> sounds good!
16:36:36 <GeKo> ggus: do you have anything else we should chat about today?
16:36:42 <GeKo> or are you good?
16:37:18 <ggus> i think that was all!
16:37:26 <GeKo> great
16:37:32 <GeKo> juga: how are things going?
16:37:39 <GeKo> anything to chat about today?
16:39:14 <juga> i don't think so
16:39:34 <juga> i think i found a way to solve sbw#40142
16:39:44 <GeKo> k. otherwise we can bring things up in the s61 sync later or our 1:1 this week...
16:39:47 <GeKo> aha, nice
16:39:57 <juga> yes
16:40:53 <GeKo> okay, calling the meeting then. thanks everyone
16:40:57 <GeKo> have a nice week, too :)
16:41:00 <GeKo> #endmeeting