16:00:44 <onyinyang> #startmeeting tor anti-censorship meeting
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16:00:44 <onyinyang> hello everyone!
16:00:44 <onyinyang> here is our meeting pad: [https://pad.riseup.net/p/r.9574e996bb9c0266213d38b91b56c469](https://pad.riseup.net/p/r.9574e996bb9c0266213d38b91b56c469)
16:00:55 <meskio> hi
16:00:55 <cohosh> hi
16:00:56 <Shelikhoo[mds]> hi~
16:01:09 <Shelikhoo[mds]> I was trying to start the meeting
16:01:31 <Shelikhoo[mds]> but maybe this isn't my turn this weekl
16:01:38 <onyinyang> nope, next week! :)
16:01:52 <meskio> :)
16:03:06 <Shelikhoo[mds]> yes! hahahah
16:04:50 <onyinyang> ok it seems like we only have a single discussion point for today
16:05:02 <onyinyang> That is: CDN77 new domains?
16:05:06 <onyinyang> added by meskio I believe
16:05:13 <meskio> yes, true
16:05:21 <meskio> but is more a question to Shelikhoo[mds], I think
16:05:35 <meskio> do we have new prospects of domains for CDN77 fronts?
16:07:11 <Shelikhoo[mds]> yes, actually based on the the result I shared last week
16:07:24 <Shelikhoo[mds]> some of the fronting domain does still works
16:07:27 <Shelikhoo[mds]> like app.datapacket.com
16:08:43 <meskio> cool, maybe we can select a couple of working ones and bring back snowflake to CDN77?
16:08:54 <meskio> but netlify for now seems to be holding
16:09:47 <cohosh> sounds like a good plan to me
16:10:32 <Shelikhoo[mds]> yes!
16:10:46 <cohosh> somewhat related, i did some cost analysis of SQS and i just posted it to the team mailing list
16:10:51 <Shelikhoo[mds]> I will pick a few them as the new fronting domain
16:11:14 <cohosh> to followup on the discussion in https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/43842
16:11:24 <meskio> Shelikhoo[mds]: thanks
16:11:41 <onyinyang> and I have tried the updated domain fronts with conjure from the vantage point which seems to help with the registration step, but not the subsequent conjure connection
16:11:53 <onyinyang> it seems like there is something else going on there
16:12:05 <onyinyang> i'm not entirely sure what but hopefully will have a better update by next week
16:13:06 <Shelikhoo[mds]> yes, they are actually separate steps
16:13:25 <onyinyang> yep
16:13:34 <Shelikhoo[mds]> so the getting pass the domain fronting step is a achievement on its own
16:13:35 <Shelikhoo[mds]> https://gist.github.com/xiaokangwang/167d612460960a1a99173f00bb29e4da
16:13:37 <meskio> ohh, fun, I see the email in the list archives, but I havent receive it (yet?)
16:13:42 <Shelikhoo[mds]> BTW, this is the test result
16:13:53 <meskio> https://lists.torproject.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/anti-censorship-team@lists.torproject.org/thread/T5REPCMJJFK3TGVYNSDCU3WT7SQDARPB/
16:14:22 <cohosh> it's not as bad as i originally thought
16:14:46 <cohosh> i'll follow up about the aws credits tor has
16:15:00 <Shelikhoo[mds]> nice!
16:15:11 <cohosh> it is still pretty expensive
16:15:26 <cohosh> i'll also follow up with how it compares to domain fronting costs once i get those numbers
16:15:36 <meskio> pretty cool
16:17:18 <onyinyang> anything else to report on this topic? or any other discussion items?
16:17:46 <meskio> I think we are good on this
16:17:52 <meskio> or at least I'm good
16:18:10 <Shelikhoo[mds]> nothing from me
16:18:40 <onyinyang> OK in that case, just a reminder to everyone that we will have a reading group discussion next week
16:19:11 <onyinyang> We will discuss "The Internet Coup" https://interseclab.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/The-Internet-Coup_September2025.pdf
16:19:12 <onyinyang> Particularly relevant sections: "Blocking online privacy and circumvention tools"
16:19:53 <onyinyang> that's it! have a good rest of your Thursday :D
16:20:02 <onyinyang> #endmeeting