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16:00:57 <isabela> cool
16:01:16 <karsten> should I start with the may/june thing?
16:01:17 <isabela> first like we did with support/documentation
16:01:30 <isabela> does anyone want to ask any questions related to karsten's email on sponsorO?
16:01:47 <isabela> karsten: yes :)
16:01:52 <karsten> let me summarize (feels like a deja-vu.. ;) )
16:02:01 <isabela> lol
16:02:05 <karsten> so, there was some confusion when exactly sponsor o ends.
16:02:23 <karsten> the contract says may 31, but your contracts all run until june 30.
16:02:44 <karsten> that's why the current plan is to extend the sponsor contract, without getting any more money though.
16:02:53 <karsten> we should plan to do most/all things by may 31,
16:03:06 <karsten> but if that doesn't work for all things, we'll very likely have june to finish things.
16:03:16 <karsten> this also applies to things that we know won't happen before june,
16:03:25 <karsten> like instantbird folks merging our patches.
16:03:36 <karsten> well, *likely* won't happen before june.
16:03:45 <karsten> does that make sense?
16:03:52 <boklm> yes
16:03:55 <sukhe> yup
16:03:56 <arlolra> yup
16:03:59 <karsten> great!
16:04:06 <isabela> cool
16:04:16 <karsten> (so, not quite a deja-vu)
16:04:21 <isabela> hehe
16:04:36 <isabela> ok, this is what we will do:
16:05:08 <isabela> 1. I will go down the list for march (https://etherpad.mozilla.org/RkPMfnk7UX) and people can give an update or mark at the pad what has already been done
16:05:19 <isabela> 2. we will look what can be done for april
16:05:25 <isabela> lets start with 1
16:05:49 <isabela> 3.4 sherief and sukhe - do you have updates?
16:06:09 <sukhe> yes!
16:06:14 <isabela> go!
16:06:20 <sukhe> so we have been trying to get the Arabic translation working
16:06:41 <sukhe> it is fine but we have one major major bug: textbox input doesn't work
16:06:50 <sherief> for translations, a and b are done. But.. sukhe will continue..
16:07:12 <sukhe> we have been talking in different places to get it done but we have no leads yet since this is the first RTL for Instantbird
16:07:15 <karsten> so, labels are displayed in arabic, but the user cannot put in arabic text?
16:07:22 <sukhe> exactly
16:07:34 <sukhe> everything is in Arabic and that is fine, except user input
16:07:34 <isabela> :(
16:07:41 <sukhe> it's a major bug and currently, we have no leads
16:08:02 <karsten> can we bother florian with this?
16:08:07 <sukhe> already did...
16:08:10 <sherief> we've asked in several localizaion channels related to mozilla but no luck.
16:08:16 <isabela> hmm
16:08:22 <sherief> we email flo a couple of hours back
16:08:25 <isabela> I think i can ping someone on this
16:08:33 <sukhe> can we get it done by 31st March? yes if this is fixed then Arabic translations will be complete
16:08:40 <sukhe> (including a build)
16:08:59 <sukhe> if not, we can still do an Arabic build but user input won't work (which is not a nice thing)
16:09:10 <karsten> true.
16:09:36 <karsten> still, we can say that we did make progress.
16:09:55 <sukhe> for sure
16:10:06 <sherief> all translations are up on the repos
16:10:16 <sherief> I think flo will know what's wrong
16:10:29 <sherief> we even emailed him the xpi and few screenshots
16:10:35 <karsten> sounds good!
16:10:46 <sukhe> if we get this fixed even on 31st, we will do a build the same day
16:11:15 <karsten> cool. lots of fun with RTL..
16:11:38 <sherief> I also emailed other tor translators on how to start translating instantbird
16:11:46 <sherief> mainly spanish and chinese
16:11:55 <isabela> cool - if flo doesnt know let me know, I can ping some i18n engs who are focus on rtl stuff for help
16:11:58 <sukhe> and weput up the isntructions online
16:12:11 <sukhe> isabela: sounds good
16:12:14 <karsten> isabela: sounds like a great option.
16:12:25 <karsten> sherief: great!
16:13:03 <isabela> cool
16:13:11 <isabela> ok 3.10
16:13:12 <sukhe> 3.4b is done; sherief completed the translations and arlolra merged them
16:13:21 <karsten> sounds like we should talk more about 3.4 after march 31, for the report.
16:13:57 <sukhe> 3.10: we have the logos. we need to finalize one of them. will this be done by 31st? yes...
16:14:06 <karsten> yay :)
16:14:21 <sukhe> sorry this is taking them but we have a disagreement on the logos. perhaps we will send an email to -internal/-assistants to help us decide
16:14:25 <isabela> nice
16:14:27 <sukhe> s/them/time
16:14:38 <karsten> sounds good.
16:14:57 <isabela> cool
16:14:58 <karsten> or maybe -talk?
16:15:03 <sukhe> sure
16:15:06 <karsten> depending on how many opinions you want..
16:15:11 <sukhe> will do after this meeting
16:15:15 <karsten> cool!
16:15:41 <isabela> 4.1 -> boklm any updates?
16:16:06 <isabela> ops
16:16:11 <isabela> missed 3.19
16:16:14 <boklm> 4.1 is almost done but not yet. I'm not sure it will be ready for march 31.
16:17:13 <karsten> march 31 is indeed very soon.
16:17:27 <sukhe> yes, this is lot of work
16:17:30 <isabela> yes
16:18:03 <isabela> boklm: do you want to update the date to April?
16:18:44 <boklm> yes, we can move it to April
16:18:59 <karsten> movd.
16:19:00 <karsten> moved even
16:19:40 <boklm> oops, that was for 3.19, not 4.1
16:19:47 <karsten> ah
16:19:56 <sukhe> ah
16:19:56 <boklm> I think 4.1 will be ready for march
16:20:04 <isabela> :()
16:20:05 <isabela> ops
16:20:08 <isabela> :)
16:20:15 <isabela> hehe alright!
16:20:28 <boklm> I setup automated builds for tor-mail: http://paganini.erinn.org/~boklm/build_reports/index-tor-mail_build.html
16:20:43 <boklm> I need only small changes to do the same for tor-messenger, before march 31
16:20:53 <sukhe> nice!
16:20:54 <isabela> cool
16:21:12 <karsten> that includes 5.2, right?
16:21:28 <sukhe> https://people.torproject.org/~sukhbir/tor-mail-0.0.1/
16:21:46 <boklm> 5.2 is done yes (with help from sukhe)
16:21:51 <karsten> great!
16:21:55 <sukhe> boklm and I finished 5.2 but only for Linux
16:22:00 <isabela> nice
16:22:05 <sukhe> but it works nicely!
16:22:12 <karsten> did we promise more than linux?
16:22:24 <karsten> I think not.
16:22:25 <sukhe> announcement email is ready in case we want to make them public
16:22:38 <karsten> fine question.
16:22:54 <sukhe> karsten: I guess not but we will try to make for Windows in case it is not much work
16:23:00 <sukhe> (and when we have nothing else to do)
16:23:01 <karsten> we don't really want users to use them, right?
16:23:04 <karsten> hehe
16:23:09 <karsten> just developers
16:23:16 <isabela> that is what I was thinking
16:23:19 <sukhe> karsten: it's TorBirdy with Thunderbird and Tor
16:23:24 <karsten> so, maybe don't make windows bundles. :)
16:23:25 <sukhe> other than the TorBirdy issues, we are good to go
16:23:49 <karsten> updating might be a bigger issue here, right?
16:23:57 <sukhe> it is
16:23:59 <karsten> or rather, expectations about updating.
16:24:02 <sukhe> "alpha version" :P
16:24:38 <sukhe> so we are not promising Windows builds, but if it is one-day work, I will spend time on it since I know some way around rbm, thanks to boklm's help
16:24:50 <karsten> okay.
16:24:55 <sukhe> no promises
16:24:56 <sukhe> :)
16:25:01 <karsten> so, I think we can leave out the announcement in this case.
16:25:14 <karsten> and put a link to your people.tp.o directory in the report.
16:25:19 <sukhe> yes sure
16:25:20 <karsten> and maybe git links.
16:25:33 <sukhe> https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor-messenger-build.git
16:25:40 <sukhe> we are using the same repository since most things are shared
16:25:47 <karsten> ok.
16:25:57 <sukhe> the tor-mail project is in projects/tor-mail/
16:26:19 <karsten> (I might ask you this all again when we're collecting things for the report. or I'll read meetbot's log..)
16:26:23 <sukhe> np
16:26:32 <isabela> :)
16:26:33 <sukhe> feel free toa sk
16:26:36 <sukhe> *to ask
16:26:38 <karsten> will do
16:26:45 <karsten> marking this one done in the pad.
16:26:58 <isabela> ok, I think we are done with #1 part of the meeting
16:26:59 <karsten> (yay!)
16:27:40 <karsten> isabela: sounds good.
16:28:00 <isabela> for #2 (look for what can be worked on in April) - the orientation is to look for *small-jump-low-hanging* fruits
16:28:06 <isabela> karsten can explain what that means :P
16:28:18 <karsten> heh, low hanging fruit are already gone
16:28:34 <isabela> ok
16:28:45 <isabela> maybe things that could be done in a month period?
16:28:56 <karsten> and remember, we have april and may left,
16:29:01 <isabela> good point
16:29:05 <karsten> plus june in case we need it.
16:29:44 <karsten> we might also postpone the nice-to-have tasks and move them to may.
16:29:47 <karsten> well, or leave them in may.
16:29:53 <karsten> and move the others to april
16:30:44 <karsten> sukhe: moved 3.10 to april, right?
16:30:57 <sukhe> karsten: for the complete branding, yes
16:31:01 <karsten> ok.
16:31:20 <sukhe> since once we finalize a logo, we have to give Leiah time to come up with the rest of the branding
16:31:30 <karsten> sure
16:31:54 <sukhe> I have also added 3.13, 3.15 and 3.16
16:32:39 <sukhe> ideally, I would like to focus on 3.12 and 3.13 the most for April
16:32:54 <isabela> looks like we have an April list
16:32:59 <sukhe> let's see -- I am not sure of the work involved at this stage
16:33:51 <karsten> sukhe: 3.15 is yours, right?
16:34:00 <sukhe> yup; adding
16:34:07 <karsten> thanks
16:34:43 <sukhe> arlolra: aren't we good for 3.7?
16:36:16 <arlolra> uh, I wouldn't say it's done
16:36:20 <arlolra> it's better
16:36:23 <arlolra> but not best
16:36:38 <sukhe> ah ok
16:36:47 <karsten> is it a candidate for april?
16:36:50 <arlolra> bunch of tickets still open around that
16:37:15 <arlolra> i think 3.8 is closer
16:37:17 <arlolra> for april
16:37:30 <karsten> okay, should I move that to april?
16:37:37 <arlolra> sure
16:37:43 <karsten> done
16:37:53 <arlolra> as long as we're lenient on the "possibly beyond"
16:38:15 <karsten> april is an internal deadline, so yes. :)
16:38:20 <arlolra> k
16:38:29 <karsten> it just helps avoid a very stressful may.
16:38:50 <arlolra> only 2 tickets remain that were opened before jan 15
16:38:56 <arlolra> so its looking good
16:38:58 <karsten> nice!
16:38:59 <isabela> cool
16:39:48 <karsten> looks like a fine list now.
16:39:49 <isabela> ok, if there is nothing else you guys can spot
16:39:55 <isabela> alright
16:39:58 <karsten> well,
16:40:17 <karsten> this was mostly a question. :)
16:40:32 <karsten> supposed to be.. ah well.
16:40:40 <isabela> hehe
16:40:46 <isabela> how people feel about it?
16:40:49 <isabela> we cool?
16:41:22 <sukhe> yeah
16:41:33 <arlolra> think so
16:41:34 <boklm> yes
16:41:44 <karsten> great!
16:41:47 <isabela> then I will suggest we meet again in 2 weeks?
16:41:55 <karsten> sounds good.
16:42:19 <arlolra> same bat time?
16:42:20 <sukhe> yup
16:42:22 <boklm> april 10th ?
16:42:31 <arlolra> same bat channel?
16:42:38 <isabela> yep
16:42:49 <isabela> but no batman (sorry)
16:42:54 <boklm> ok
16:42:55 <arlolra> :(
16:42:57 <sukhe> :(
16:43:00 <karsten> :(
16:43:03 <boklm> :(
16:43:08 <helix> :(
16:43:10 <isabela> lol
16:43:20 <isabela> #endmeeting