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16:05:05 <isabela> lets start with updates and then discussion
16:05:43 <isabela> who wants to go first?
16:06:07 <sukhe> I can
16:06:15 <sukhe> let's start with the translations
16:06:38 <sukhe> I have been discussing putting them up on Transifex with Jason and Phoul1
16:06:43 <sukhe> still waiting for it to happen
16:06:57 <karsten> we briefly talked about that yesterday.
16:06:58 <sukhe> meanwhile, I have sent them the strings if they want to translate locally
16:07:05 <karsten> I think it requires adding 50 resources or so.
16:07:10 <karsten> Phoul1 is on it, I think.
16:07:11 <sukhe> yes
16:07:52 <sukhe> I can't comment on the translation effort part since the actual work will be done by the translators
16:08:03 <sukhe> we will just pull and create the builds
16:08:08 <karsten> yup
16:08:15 <sukhe> I think we will have a clearer picture in the coming 3-4 days
16:08:27 <sukhe> not to mention, we discussed some of the more critical strings with Phoul1
16:08:48 <sukhe> we can start with those and go ahead with them in case we don't make much progress
16:09:06 <sukhe> just to be clear, I am really hoping we get the extension for next month
16:09:21 <karsten> I hope we'll have news on that in the coming 3-4 days.
16:09:48 <sukhe> thank you
16:09:59 <karsten> sure. sorry this takes so long.
16:10:26 <sukhe> we are now building on top of Firefox 38 so some changes related to that
16:10:39 <sukhe> some usability changes also, related to the issues mikeperry pointed out
16:10:52 <sukhe> and I continue the work on the XMPP registration
16:10:59 <sukhe> I am still aiming to complete for te
16:11:08 <sukhe> 31 May
16:11:15 <sukhe> that's my last task
16:11:27 <karsten> sounds great!
16:11:29 <sukhe> that's it from me
16:11:41 <isabela> thanks sukhe!
16:12:21 <isabela> hopefully we will have update on the comings days on the extension
16:12:24 <isabela> who can go next?
16:13:48 * boklm can go next
16:14:10 <boklm> I have fixed the Windows build after switching to the esr38 branch
16:14:19 <boklm> I tested running the Windows version in a VM today and it seems to work
16:14:25 <karsten> cool!
16:14:30 <sukhe> yaya
16:14:37 <boklm> that's all for me
16:14:42 <isabela> !!!
16:14:50 <isabela> :)
16:14:51 <karsten> what's the plan for osx bundles?
16:16:03 <boklm> I have not made progress on that in the past 2 weeks, I need to go back to it
16:16:55 <karsten> what do you think, will there be bundles by end of may?
16:18:20 <boklm> I'll try to get them next week, but I'm not sure
16:18:24 <isabela> is too soon
16:18:33 <karsten> really soon, yes.
16:18:34 <isabela> EOM = next week
16:18:35 <karsten> ok. thanks!
16:19:01 * sukhe also wishes for the extension for June :)
16:19:06 <isabela> hehehe
16:19:44 <isabela> ok, is anyone else around?
16:19:48 <sukhe> it's because we will have the time to complete everything before we make a public release for the blog
16:19:55 <sukhe> especially the translations and branding
16:20:02 <sukhe> (we have revised the branding)
16:20:43 <karsten> makes sense!
16:21:03 <arlolra> but baring the extension, we should still put something on the blog
16:21:22 <arlolra> s/baring/barring/
16:21:25 <karsten> be prepared to put something on the blog, yes.
16:21:36 <arlolra> do we need to coordinate that with press?
16:21:39 <arlolra> if so, we should start that now
16:21:40 <karsten> and keep in mind that blog posts can take some time, too.
16:21:45 <karsten> we do, yes.
16:22:00 <karsten> so, sure, can't hurt to start that now.
16:22:35 <isabela> hmm
16:22:45 <isabela> we should announce it
16:22:52 <arlolra> i think we had started on a post a while back
16:22:59 <isabela> arlolra: not sure with the press
16:23:10 <isabela> arlolra: i think kate should be pinged on it
16:23:13 <isabela> she knows
16:23:16 <arlolra> isabela: press@tpo
16:23:20 <isabela> ahh
16:23:21 <isabela> :)
16:23:22 <arlolra> not "the press"
16:23:25 <isabela> lol
16:23:26 <karsten> hehe
16:23:27 <isabela> sorry
16:23:47 <arlolra> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/tor-messenger-blog
16:23:51 <arlolra> is what we had a while ago
16:23:56 <sukhe> yeah we wrote this a while ago
16:24:19 <isabela> yes, send to the list
16:24:36 * isabela checking the link
16:25:19 <sukhe> things have changed of course since we wrote it; we will update it before we finalize
16:25:26 <karsten> looks like some useful comments in there.
16:26:35 <karsten> so, I'd say it makes sense to resume working on that blog post, either for end of may or end of june.
16:28:44 <arlolra> ok, thanks
16:29:44 <arlolra> i guess i should update on my progress
16:29:50 <isabela> sure :)
16:30:32 <arlolra> i finished off the last missing ui elements
16:30:40 <arlolra> what's left is enhancements
16:30:51 <arlolra> and upstreaming code
16:31:14 <karsten> how's the upstreaming going?
16:31:50 <arlolra> i need to push a little harder on that front for reviews
16:32:10 <arlolra> all the api changes in instantbird are done though
16:32:16 <arlolra> purely extensions stuff left
16:32:34 <arlolra> but it seems like the meeting is the ideal time for that
16:32:37 <arlolra> if it happens
16:32:51 <karsten> I hope it happens. I haven't heard back from florian yet.
16:32:54 <sukhe> yes
16:33:25 <karsten> not sure how hard to push there.
16:33:46 <arlolra> its not really a blocker for tor messenger
16:34:02 <arlolra> so i'm more inclined to let them do it at their own pace
16:34:13 <karsten> okay, good to know.
16:34:41 <karsten> so, if this meeting would happen with just instantbird folks, would it still be useful for tor messenger?
16:34:56 <sukhe> definitely
16:35:21 <sukhe> for example, my end of the patches are a bit tricky because in some cases we are completely removing the code
16:35:21 <arlolra> yes, i think so
16:35:38 <karsten> maybe I should mention that as an option.
16:35:41 <sukhe> now those won't be merged but there are others that _may_ be
16:35:52 <karsten> I avoided that so far, because I really wanted to get you there, too.
16:37:30 <karsten> okay, how about I wait a few more days and then suggest that they think about a meeting with only 3 people?
16:37:32 <sukhe> let's see
16:38:02 <sukhe> I think it's a good idea
16:38:09 <arlolra> i think it's better to have a meeting than no meeting. if reducing the amount of people makes that happen, that's fine
16:38:21 <karsten> okay. thanks for letting me know!
16:38:34 <isabela> cool
16:38:45 <arlolra> we can still participate remotely
16:38:54 <karsten> true.
16:39:20 <sukhe> I like the idea of participating remotely. no borders, no visa :)
16:39:27 <isabela> hehehehe
16:41:29 <karsten> ok, what else should we discuss?
16:42:20 <sukhe> last time we were supposed to discuss life after Sponsor O
16:42:28 <isabela> yes
16:42:56 <isabela> I will be in Boston on the first week of june
16:43:16 <isabela> this will help a lot to understand what can be done
16:43:46 <karsten> would it help to prepare a roadmap?
16:43:53 <karsten> even for that meeting in boston?
16:43:59 <isabela> with support, we will be doing a similar doc I created for you
16:44:31 <isabela> karsten: yes, the idea is to have as much info about what is the work that is there to be done
16:44:32 <karsten> ah, is there already a roadmap thing?
16:44:40 <isabela> not necessary roadmap
16:45:31 <isabela> list of tasks are good of course but also answering other questions to give more context that will help when looking for grants
16:45:40 <karsten> right.
16:46:00 <isabela> stuff like 'what problem' 'why now' 'what is out there' 'who we are solving thsi problem for'
16:46:20 <isabela> I will help draft it up for support
16:46:42 <karsten> maybe I suggested this before, but would it make sense to pick the OTF proposal form and go through the questions there?
16:46:47 <isabela> sukhe: pls ping me if you need me for anything on that doc as well
16:46:50 <karsten> regardless of whether the proposal will go to OTF.
16:47:03 <arlolra> this came up in that operational meeting, no?
16:47:06 <karsten> unless you already have a good list of such questions.
16:47:18 <isabela> arlolra: yes
16:47:28 <sukhe> isabela: I spent some time working on it; will keep you updated. no questions so far as it's quite explanatory
16:47:53 <isabela> karsten: the problem with that is if we apply for something else, having the proposal doc (which we can migrate to the wiki) servers the project as well
16:47:59 <isabela> and we can use that for any grant
16:48:22 <isabela> sukhe: cool
16:48:41 <karsten> proposal doc sounds fine.
16:48:51 <sukhe> isabela: if you think it's a good idea, you (or I) can share the doc with boklm and arlolra  for Tor Messenger
16:48:58 <isabela> of course
16:49:01 * karsten lost track of current and upcoming funding proposals..
16:49:03 <isabela> i am fine sharing with whoever :)
16:49:10 <sukhe> since I am just doing the TorBirdy part
16:49:44 <isabela> and if folks want to use the same template it would be awesome - can be anywhere no need to use gdocs
16:50:58 <sukhe> ok
16:51:01 <sukhe> I think that's it
16:51:58 <isabela> ok
16:52:07 <isabela> if no one has anything else I can stop the bot
16:52:28 <karsten> nothing more from me.
16:52:40 <sukhe> same here
16:52:54 <arlolra> same
16:52:59 <isabela> alright
16:53:06 <isabela> #endmeeting