13:59:33 <karsten> #startmeeting Measurement Team meeting
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13:59:47 <karsten> hello meeting people. who is here for the meeting?
14:00:28 * phw 
14:00:38 <karsten> hi phw :)
14:02:29 * karsten considers taking surveymonkey up on the offer to create a survey, which would be to find out what would make more people join us at these meetings.
14:03:37 <karsten> okay, let's start, phw.
14:04:25 <karsten> no need to stick to the originally planned agenda. how about: measurement roadmap, a 1-1-1 task you want me to do for you, misc?
14:04:28 <phw> i don't have an awful lot to report.  20 minutes ago, i started going over your latex document.
14:04:34 <karsten> oh, great.
14:05:37 <karsten> I guess we should talk about that via email then.
14:05:50 <phw> works for me.
14:05:54 <karsten> is there anything you want me to review or comment on?
14:06:17 <phw> not now.
14:06:29 <phw> anything i can do for you?  after i'm done with the document?
14:07:20 <karsten> I might ask you to review a revised version of that document, but that won't be before the next meeting.
14:07:55 <phw> ok.
14:09:24 <karsten> oh, do you parse large amounts of tor descriptors?
14:09:37 <karsten> and if so, do you have resources for that available?
14:10:03 <phw> i parse large amounts occasionally, yes.  so far, an SSD with a reasonably fast CPU seems good enough.
14:10:46 <karsten> that would be the ssd and cpu in your laptop?
14:11:08 <karsten> I'm just thinking if you might enjoy doing this on EC2.
14:11:48 <karsten> also as a means to keep your laptop (or whichever device this is) healthy.
14:11:57 <phw> yes, i'm doing this on the laptop.  i would happily take an EC2 instance, too.
14:12:07 <phw> ...as long as it doesn't cost us a lot of money.
14:13:00 <karsten> well, you typically run these things for a day or two.
14:13:13 <karsten> I think EC2 only gets expensive if you keep it running for weeks and months.
14:13:22 <karsten> or if you push large amounts of bandwidth.
14:13:30 <karsten> let me ask and get back to you via email.
14:13:31 <phw> hmm, that seems problematic.
14:13:40 <karsten> the bandwidth part?
14:13:49 <phw> first, i would need to get all the descriptor archives on the machine, which takes up a lot of bandwidth.
14:14:38 <phw> second, i do my analyses on and off, with several days/weeks in between.  considering that, using my laptop seems like less trouble.
14:15:05 <karsten> so, looks like incoming traffic is free.
14:15:14 <karsten> https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/
14:15:38 <karsten> and you can suspend instances easily, and then they don't cost much. (only the disk)
14:16:26 <karsten> but I agree that we should be aware of the costs.
14:16:27 <phw> oh, i see.  i'll consider it, then.  thanks!
14:16:44 <karsten> you could try it out and see how much it costs.
14:16:56 <karsten> let me ask if we can get you an account.
14:17:05 <karsten> I'll also ask for one for aagbsn.
14:17:19 <karsten> who complained about laptop hotness a while ago.
14:17:34 <karsten> okay, anything else we should discuss?
14:17:55 <phw> not from my side.
14:17:58 <karsten> you're not a web designer/Bootstrap person by chance?
14:18:11 <phw> i've used bootstrap once, but far from being a web designer.
14:18:25 <karsten> ok :)
14:18:49 <karsten> I should find someone who considers themselves a web designer, rather than waste your time then.
14:19:33 <karsten> okay, how about we meet again next week? I'll ask other folks in the team what would make these meetings more fun for them.
14:19:42 <phw> sounds good to me.
14:20:07 <karsten> (I know that two other people would have joined, but they're both traveling.)
14:20:52 <karsten> great! thanks for coming. let's talk more via email (roadmap, ec2).
14:21:05 <karsten> #endmeeting