19:59:59 <isabela> #startmeeting
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20:00:04 <isabela> who is here for the meeting?
20:00:05 * isabela o/
20:00:12 <jagtalon> \o
20:00:26 <Sebastian> <-
20:01:04 <isabela> I suspect we are the only ones for the meeting
20:02:31 <isabela> ok, I thought of 1. review letter 2. sitemapping 3. should we do something at the dev meeting? 4. next meeting (we will have to jump a couple weeks due to valencia)
20:02:33 <Sebastian> ok
20:02:48 <isabela> anything else we should talk?
20:03:13 <Sebastian> maybe 0 who are we missing and how do we get them up to speed/how can we make sure they're not missing next time?
20:03:39 <jagtalon> sounds good to me
20:03:58 <isabela> that's a good question, from last meeting mrphs is missing :) in general, from www-team list, I really dont know
20:04:12 <Sebastian> I'd be expecting Lunar and mrphs
20:04:15 <isabela> I do think we will have more ppl coming to these once we sent out that letter
20:04:20 <isabela> yes Lunar :)
20:05:00 <Sebastian> ok, let's ask them individually and move on?
20:05:07 <isabela> yes
20:05:10 <isabela> sounds good
20:05:29 <isabela> so for 1
20:05:41 <isabela> https://storm.torproject.org/shared/E6WiF0Hy1hQeSdwvwP8XpSgKoQVHh1zHB3WiPUbfXBi
20:05:50 <isabela> I wrote a bunch :)
20:05:59 <isabela> so I will wait for folks to review and make comments
20:07:58 <jagtalon> isabela: i like it! although I apologize I forget where this is going to be sent to--is it the ux mailing list?
20:08:16 <isabela> I am thinking of sending to ux and www
20:08:25 <isabela> doesnt hurt to spam our own list :)
20:08:32 <jagtalon> true :P
20:11:04 <Sebastian> isabela: made a few suggested edits
20:11:07 <Sebastian> and fixed some typos
20:11:10 <Sebastian> done for now
20:11:23 <Sebastian> I'm thinking this could go out on the blog or something.
20:12:09 <Sebastian> (so we can link it. Or we can link to the mailing list archives)
20:12:18 <isabela> true, all depends on how much buzz and load we want to give+deal with
20:12:41 <Sebastian> I'm not expecting a flood of replies
20:12:47 <jagtalon> isabela: maybe specify the file type too, i.e. have submissions in PNG / HTML instead of PSD files (I imagine that not everyone has photoshop)
20:12:57 <Sebastian> So we can start with the list and expand if necessary
20:13:12 <isabela> Sebastian: I like that
20:13:23 <isabela> jagtalon: true!
20:13:28 <isabela> so what file types?
20:13:39 <isabela> I dont have photoshop but could access one
20:13:56 <isabela> png are easier
20:14:12 <isabela> html might be too much work for not being sure we will use it
20:14:16 <isabela> what ppl think?
20:14:35 <jagtalon> isabela: same here i just have pixelmator which can read psd files but that's about it :P
20:14:52 <Sebastian> Whatever they want to provide, I think?
20:14:57 <Sebastian> If they want to provide html, why not
20:14:59 <isabela> i guess so
20:15:02 <jagtalon> isabela: my experience with working with designers is that I get mockups in PNGs
20:15:11 <Sebastian> if they want to provide psd we can still say "please also send us a png"
20:15:11 <isabela> if we have problems we can interact with the person and ask for another format
20:15:21 <isabela> :)
20:15:26 <Sebastian> photoshop can export into those formats, but having the psd available will help build the site later
20:15:27 <jagtalon> true true :)
20:16:02 <isabela> Sebastian: I am good with your edits so I will remove the stuff you cut
20:16:59 <isabela> ok
20:17:38 <isabela> so the plan is to send to those lists.. if little response we go louder (blog)
20:17:46 <Sebastian> good
20:17:59 <jagtalon> sounds good!
20:18:02 <isabela> I can do that after the meeting
20:18:23 <isabela> 2 is the mapping
20:18:46 <isabela> I finally read the comments there https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/10591
20:19:24 <isabela> I like the DOT lang suggestion
20:20:07 <isabela> is good for visualization
20:20:10 <jagtalon> isabela: first time i've heard of it but it looks useful
20:21:00 <isabela> i would like it on a cvs format too for manipulation
20:21:25 <isabela> I want o move things around and show what we can do with the content we will move out
20:21:28 <isabela> like the dev stuff
20:22:01 <isabela> ops csv
20:22:02 <isabela> :)
20:22:32 <isabela> Sebastian: I can look for a volunteer for this task
20:22:44 <isabela> If I dont hear back by monday, could you help me with it?
20:22:57 <Sebastian> sure
20:23:00 <isabela> jagtalon: let us know if you want to help
20:23:33 <jagtalon> isabela: to be clear is it help with the script that will crawl the site?
20:23:45 <isabela> yes
20:24:55 <jagtalon> isabela: sounds like it's something i could do. Ok, I volunteer :)
20:25:29 <isabela> awesome!
20:25:37 <isabela> please ping us here if you have any questions
20:25:52 <isabela> I am always around and can read backlog as well
20:27:25 <jagtalon> isabela: gotcha! I have time to do it next week--would that be a good time? i.e. how soon do we want this done?
20:27:40 <isabela> yes, is totally fine
20:27:54 <isabela> thanks for picking it up
20:28:03 <Sebastian> indeed!
20:28:09 <Sebastian> just ping me if you need anything.
20:28:30 <jagtalon> isabela: Sebastian: no worries!
20:28:46 <jagtalon> just remembered that Sketch is another one that designers use these days http://www.sketchapp.com/
20:29:20 <Sebastian> should we move on?
20:30:25 <isabela> jagtalon: yep
20:30:27 <isabela> Sebastian: yes
20:30:29 <isabela> so
20:30:48 <isabela> we are having our dev meeting starting saturday next week
20:31:00 <isabela> some of us will be there, i was wondering if we should do something
20:31:18 <isabela> if not is ok, just thought of checking
20:31:37 <jagtalon> isabela: this is in valencia right? You guys should ... have fun :P
20:31:44 <isabela> hehe
20:31:47 <isabela> yes is in valencia
20:31:59 <isabela> I guess we could at least give an update on it
20:32:11 <isabela> in case someone missed the fact we are having these meetings :)
20:32:12 <Sebastian> Yeah, definitely an update
20:32:32 <Sebastian> but I don't know about a session. Too many www-team people not there, too many other sessions?
20:32:41 <Sebastian> Unless there's a topic I'm not envisioning right now
20:32:44 <isabela> yeah, i would be ok with an update
20:33:09 <isabela> lets commit to an update and be open for ppls needs ;)
20:33:20 <isabela> if ppl want to talk etc we do it, we answer questions etc
20:33:59 <isabela> maybe by then ppl will see the call for help with designing and has questions
20:34:05 <isabela> who knows!
20:34:34 <jagtalon> isabela: is this gonna be on a stage?
20:34:39 <isabela> nope
20:34:49 <isabela> is just tor ppl in a room
20:37:22 <isabela> and, talking about valencia.. it also means that we will be all over the place for the next 2 weeks :/
20:38:56 <isabela> I am thinking of skipping these meetings and talk here and in the list if needed during this time
20:39:19 <isabela> we can schedule the next meeting on march 11th
20:39:49 <Sebastian> yeah
20:39:50 <Sebastian> let's do that
20:40:05 <Sebastian> people will be travelling next week and recovering the week after
20:40:53 <isabela> I will stay for IFF as well
20:41:34 <isabela> jagtalon: is that ok for you?
20:42:06 <jagtalon> isabela: i like that
20:42:15 <jagtalon> isabela: what's IFF?
20:42:15 <isabela> cool
20:42:32 <isabela> is a conference in valencia that will happen after the dev meeting, internet freedom festival
20:43:14 <jagtalon> isabela: oh oh got it
20:43:23 <isabela> :)
20:43:41 <Sebastian> any other topics?
20:43:47 <isabela> ok, when I share the notes from this meeting I will let ppl in the list know when our next meeting will be
20:43:50 <isabela> Sebastian: nope
20:43:51 <isabela> this is it
20:44:07 <isabela> I will send that email out :)
20:44:18 <isabela> jagtalon: let us know if you have questions with the script
20:44:21 <isabela> !
20:44:22 <Sebastian> ok thanks:)
20:44:25 <isabela> thanks everyone!
20:44:26 <Sebastian> gn
20:44:48 <isabela> #endmeeting