17:10:57 <isabela> #startmeeting ux team biweekly meeting 17:10:57 <MeetBot> Meeting started Wed Jun 29 17:10:57 2016 UTC. The chair is isabela. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:10:57 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 17:11:00 <isabela> ! 17:11:03 <isabela> forgot that piece 17:11:12 <ame_e> Is there a web page or instructions for IRC? He uses IRC a lot (unlike me), but I wasn't sure how to explain, channel, server, etc. 17:11:13 <isabela> #action organize a session on irc with Elio 17:11:18 <ame_e> Hello Meetbot! 17:11:24 <isabela> yes there is 17:11:41 <isabela> https://www.torproject.org/about/contact.html.en#irc 17:11:45 <PhilipL> hi isabela 17:11:48 <isabela> if you familiar with irc that should do it 17:11:54 <isabela> oi PhilipL ! 17:12:07 <PhilipL> but that page doesn’t say that the ux team meets here, right? 17:12:20 <ame_e> Ok, so we're Tor-project, got it. 17:12:23 <isabela> ah no, that is general info, our page does 17:12:26 <ame_e> No it doesn't. 17:12:38 <isabela> our wiki page had it let me check if is updated 17:12:43 <ame_e> I feel a little ridiculous, like what number am I calling you at right now? 17:13:03 <isabela> blah 17:13:05 <isabela> doesnt 17:13:09 <isabela> will add to the list 17:13:17 <isabela> #actioin add meeting schedule and place to the wiki 17:13:23 <isabela> #action add meeting schedule and place to the wiki 17:14:02 <isabela> did anyone had time to build the guidelines project page in the wiki? 17:14:55 <ame_e> No, I didn't. I have a vague draft of process, and it's on my to-do to refine. 17:15:20 <isabela> I think i can play with it during this long oliday 17:15:21 <isabela> holiday 17:15:26 <isabela> 4 of july 17:16:10 <isabela> what can be a good day for us to sync with Elio -- since today was a little fail 17:16:59 <PhilipL> i don’t know. maybe monday? 17:17:04 <ame_e> He is very accessible on Twitter, and I've exchanged emails with him too. Usually fast response time, but I believe he has a conflict the next couple of days. 17:17:20 <PhilipL> if we talk about the same time, I am not available on tuesday and wednesday 17:17:32 <ame_e> But I would absolutely schedule with him soon, and he is super responsive. He asked if all was ok since he hadn't heard. 17:17:45 <isabela> ame_e: monday this time works for you? 17:17:56 <ame_e> Yes. 17:17:56 <PhilipL> i’ll write him again to see when it’s possible 17:18:02 <isabela> if is monday the same time as this meeting works for me too 17:18:09 <isabela> PhilipL: thanks! 17:18:20 <ame_e> He's European time too. 17:18:31 <isabela> ah zurope! 17:18:36 <ame_e> Sorry, I don't know the official GMT - X, or UTC XX number for that. 17:19:15 <isabela> i will share a link to the wiki page before monday too 17:19:20 <isabela> did he joined our ux list? 17:19:21 <isabela> he should 17:19:57 <ame_e> I'm not sure. I didn't exactly roll out the welcome mat of all the things to get onboarded. 17:21:10 <ame_e> I wasn't sure if someone from Tor side wanted to be main point person, but I can definitely point him to the list and suggest he send an intro. 17:21:58 <isabela> is ok, we should do an onboarding welcome email for sure 17:22:06 * arma1 pops in, in case there's something he can be useful for 17:22:08 <isabela> i can do that and copy tor-project 17:22:17 <isabela> o/ 17:22:23 <ame_e> Hi 17:23:25 <isabela> arma1: we have a designer to work on our brand guidelines, Elio 17:24:07 <ame_e> We do! We do we do. If helpful I can share a bit of our conversations? 17:24:37 <isabela> :) 17:24:44 <PhilipL> sure. 17:25:05 <mrphs> omg i totally lost track of time 17:25:19 <ame_e> My hope is that the Style Guide is a catalyst for other engagements, so designers, UX people, some less techie than others, can then take a bite-sized piece. So let's leep the text of that welcome email handy, since I hope we need it. 17:25:22 <ame_e> mrphs! 17:25:55 * mrphs reads backlog real quick 17:26:01 <ame_e> I was just sharing a bit of context around Elio. With whom I did not share the details of this meeting. 17:26:07 <ame_e> Trying to raise him now. 17:26:46 <mrphs> I'm going to propose a crazy idea...should we reschedule this meeting for next wed? 17:27:00 <mrphs> with elio in it of course 17:27:01 <isabela> we were thinking of having one on monday actually 17:27:02 <isabela> with elio 17:27:14 <mrphs> I wont be able to do monday 17:27:38 <mrphs> earliest i can do is tue evening 17:27:57 <PhilipL> tue and wed are difficult for me :/ 17:28:22 <mrphs> and damn i see my email to elio et al hasnt went out either. 17:28:29 <mrphs> this has been hell of a week 17:28:40 <mrphs> PhilipL: what is a good day for you? 17:28:53 <mrphs> and which timezone are you at? 17:28:58 <PhilipL> or on wednesday one hour later 17:29:51 <isabela> wed one hour later works for me 17:29:55 <mrphs> me too 17:29:59 <mrphs> ame_e: ? 17:30:00 <PhilipL> im hamburg so right now it is 19:30 17:30:07 <ame_e> Sorry. In Berlin. 17:30:23 <isabela> ame_e: wed one hour later works for u? 17:30:26 <ame_e> Elio is Europe time zone, says un-sophisticated me. 17:30:28 <mrphs> ame_e: would 1800 UTC work for you? 17:30:31 <ame_e> Yes, I can do then. 17:30:51 <ame_e> I'm kind of a dummy with UTC, off to {search engine of your choice}. 17:30:52 <PhilipL> that’s UTC+2 MESZ 17:31:12 <PhilipL> Elio is in the same timezone if he is in Albania right now 17:31:26 <ame_e> So 20:00 for us, Philip? 17:31:40 <mrphs> ame_e: we're basically shifting this to an hour later, temporarily 17:31:46 <PhilipL> that would work! 17:31:49 <mrphs> ame_e: so whatever it was for you today, +1 . 17:32:00 <PhilipL> right 17:32:11 <ame_e> Ok, and adding next week, which is out of step of every-other-week. But we have Exciting Stuff and People to Conenct. 17:32:33 <mrphs> yes indeed 17:32:58 <mrphs> and sorry about the mess today :/ 17:33:23 <isabela> ok 17:33:37 <isabela> do we have any other updates ? 17:33:46 <ame_e> I can share what I know from Elio 17:33:54 <isabela> sure 17:34:31 <ame_e> He has started working, with a few hours of initial work, and shared a quick, initial few pieces of graphics. He's looking forward to meeting you all and diving in for real. 17:34:56 <ame_e> The plan is he's doing the design work, and PhilipL (waves) is providing a few hours too 17:34:57 <isabela> :) 17:35:21 <ame_e> PhilipL is a continuity point to this community and conversations, and it's hard to design alone, so PhilipL is the reviewer. 17:35:22 <PhilipL> yes 17:35:27 <mrphs> I'll send an email shortly to him and the rest of folks, but ame_e can you please make sure ux mailing list and me are in loop? 17:35:50 <isabela> he will join the list too 17:35:53 <ame_e> Yes, I've only sent 1 email, and he wrote back to me saying hey these are a few things, is all ok at Tor. 17:36:07 <ame_e> And I said, hey thanks, hope to chat w folk on Wed. 17:36:10 <isabela> mrphs: i mentioned before i will proper introduce and onboard him :) 17:36:29 <ame_e> So, you're not far out of the loop. Let's sew it together with your and isabela's email and then 1 loop. 17:36:45 <isabela> :) 17:36:49 <ame_e> He's IRC savvy and Floss ++++ so easy to reach in the usual ways. 17:36:50 <mrphs> excellent 17:38:29 <ame_e> Hang on all. He's coming here, now. 17:38:42 <isabela> ame_e: so for us to be productive on wed i will work on creating a page to document the project 17:38:43 <ame_e> He's very responsive on twitter. 17:39:12 <isabela> great 17:39:22 <PhilipL> :) wow 17:39:36 <isabela> having a page with the phases documented is a priority now 17:39:51 <isabela> so we can centralize things 17:40:10 <isabela> and communication happens much easier / one place to go and know what is going on 17:41:46 <ame_e> Hello 17:43:25 <ElioQoshi> Hi there! 17:43:26 <ame_e> Elio! 17:43:29 <PhilipL> Yey! Hi Elio 17:43:30 <ElioQoshi> Sorry, am late 17:43:32 <ame_e> Welcome, warm warm welcome. 17:43:46 <ElioQoshi> I usually use IRCCloud and it didn't allow another connection 17:43:50 <ElioQoshi> Did I miss exciting things? 17:43:57 <ElioQoshi> Thanks so much! 17:44:00 <ame_e> Dude, I never told you where it was, you're not late. I'm delighted you're here. 17:44:21 <ElioQoshi> I just wrapped up my exams today, so full focus on helping out you guys now (and some other FLOSS projects as well hehe) 17:44:22 <ame_e> Well ... isabela, mrphs, and PhilipL are here. 17:44:30 <mrphs> ElioQoshi: welcome 17:44:39 <ElioQoshi> Hey everyone o/ 17:45:03 <isabela> oi ElioQoshi ! 17:45:12 <PhilipL> So, you didn’t miss any important stuff for this meeting 17:45:34 <isabela> ElioQoshi: I plan on doing a proper onboarding email for you :) 17:45:42 <ElioQoshi> isabela, thanks so much! 17:45:49 <ElioQoshi> I need to reply to you guys too 17:45:56 <ElioQoshi> It will be easier for me with university out of the way 17:46:26 <mrphs> in fact, we just decided to reschedule this meeting for next week wed 1800 UTC 17:46:44 <isabela> cool, i hope to introduce you to rest of tor and also give a list of places for you to be or check in that will help with your work 17:47:09 <ElioQoshi> mrphs well, I will be around here if you guys wish to stick around as well 17:47:15 <PhilipL> Yes, I guess we took you by surprise today, so maybe we can meet next wednesday to talk about the style guide 17:47:20 <ElioQoshi> isabela, sounds great! I met Moritz Bartl 2 months ago 17:47:21 <isabela> hehe 17:47:22 <ElioQoshi> Great guy 17:47:29 <isabela> :) awesome 17:47:35 <isabela> ElioQoshi: you are welcomed to stick around too 17:47:39 <isabela> here on irc 17:47:46 <ElioQoshi> Yes, but I'd like to spoil you before that 17:48:10 <PhilipL> of course. 17:48:25 <ElioQoshi> Let me send you some stuff, it's nothing ground breaking, just how I envision it 17:48:28 <PhilipL> we are all too excited 17:48:29 <ElioQoshi> ame_e has seen it 17:48:30 <ame_e> Well, don't feel like you need to have work done by then. It's more hey: here are the people. 17:48:37 <mrphs> ElioQoshi: hey are you on ux list yet? 17:48:57 <ame_e> I mentioned what you shared, but I didn't know if it was online somewhere yet ElioQoshi. 17:48:58 <ElioQoshi> Nope, where can I register? 17:48:59 <isabela> mrphs: he is not is part of the onboarding list i will send 17:49:30 <mrphs> ElioQoshi: i sent you a welcome email that i just realized it never got delievered. it was part of that email :) 17:49:35 <mrphs> let me give you the link real quick 17:49:46 <mrphs> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ux 17:50:05 <mrphs> we use the list as main communication channel 17:50:24 <mrphs> it's a public list, and anyone could join, lurk or participate 17:51:59 <ElioQoshi> Let me share an owncloud folder 17:52:08 <ElioQoshi> btw, ownCloud or Nextcloud? :D 17:52:25 <isabela> either cloud :) 17:54:28 <ElioQoshi> hehe 17:54:31 <ElioQoshi> thanks mrphs 17:56:47 <ElioQoshi> http://elioqoshi.me/owncloud/index.php/s/gQ6OqV3XYMP1p6E 17:56:51 <ElioQoshi> Guys, here we go 17:56:58 <ElioQoshi> So, in a nutshell 17:57:23 <ElioQoshi> I propose a clear logo format, when to use it on lighter backgrounds and how on darker ones 17:57:48 <flexlibris> hi all, just fyi, community team is meeting in here in 3 minutes 17:58:01 <ElioQoshi> I created a monochrome version when we cannot use a full color one (this is handy in printing) 17:58:04 <isabela> flexlibris: thanks! 17:58:10 <ElioQoshi> oh ok thanks! 17:58:11 <ame_e> Hi flexlibris! 17:58:22 <ElioQoshi> Can we migrate to another room? 17:58:23 <flexlibris> hi ame_e! 17:58:31 <ame_e> Sorry ElioQoshi, I didn't know that. 17:58:32 <isabela> ElioQoshi: different teams uses this channels for meetings 17:58:39 <isabela> i actually should stop our meeting bot 17:58:39 <mrphs> hm 17:58:44 <isabela> :) 17:58:49 <isabela> if is ok for y'all 17:58:57 <mrphs> yeah pls go ahead 17:59:02 <isabela> #endmeeting